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Gear Sensor Issue

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#1 ·
Just a heads up...my gear sensor failed and as it turns out it has happened for 4 or 5 other Pani owners on other forums, but my dealer (in Toronto) and Ducati HQ was not aware of it being a problem with other owners.

Essentially the gear sensor didn't work for the first 10 mins of riding which had knock on effects:

1) Quick shifter didn't work
2) Power surges when the gear sensor started working again but would mistake what gear I was actually in.
3) Can't start the bike in neutral and leave it on the stand to warm up, as putting the kick stand down cut the engine because the gear sensor was not able to indicate neutral. I could only start the bike by finding neutral the old fashioned way and then sitting on the bike to warm it up - bit of a pain ;)

The fix was a new gear sensor and an hour in the shop under warranty. No biggie. My dealer had no clue about it, but as I found the answer on one of the other forums he just put in the order for a new gear sensor and started with that before going on a troubleshooting electronic fault hunt.

The signs are a dash in the gear indicator location, a "gear indicator" red warning box appears on the dash, and the yellow engine light comes on to the right of the dash.
 
#3 ·
-- i seem to have a somewhat similar issue....intermittent problem, cannot get green neutral light, or N to appear on screen - i'll get a 1-2-N......1-N-2.... rapidly appearing, like flashing bye...repeatedly..sometimes it just goes to N easily....most of the time it doesn't.....its random and intermittent - with motor running, stopped at a light, 1 in gear indicator clutch fully out :)

-- reminds me of my 916....i pulled in to a gas station, straight up to the pump, turned the ignition key to off, and removed it to open the gas cap.....as i reached for the gas nozzle, i heard something odd, something strange....i couldn't place it exactly.....then i realized.......the motor was still running....ignition key in the gas cap :confused:
 
#4 ·
That inability to find the right gear and seemingly jumping through the gears despite you not changing the gears is what would happen to me when it would start working again after not having worked for the first 10 mins of riding.

It would often do that for another couple minutes until it finally started working again.

While going up and down the numbers trying to find the gear it would often cause serging as mapping is different at certain throttle positions at different gears.
 
#5 ·
-- i never noticed any surging relating to that specifically - my 1199r has plenty of low end surging 4 to 6k rpms......i haven't noticed if the gear indicator is flashing different numbers (i do not believe it is) - i attribute the surging (it has done it since day 1 of ownership) to fueling (air/fuel) and i've never done anything about it other avoid those rpm's (sometimes a bit of a challenge when riding with traffic) - there has been no information posted as to wether a Power Commander would help this out (given the race exhaust and mapping/ecu already installed)....so i simply avoid the rpm zone as best i can

-- recently the surging has gotten a tad more invasive....which i'm thinking might be aggravated by a, probably dirty, air filter.....
 
#11 ·
the Lightech Rearsets are great. approx. up 0.5, 1", back about 0.5, 1, 1.5" depending on position. Not the widest range of adjustment, but seems to work. I am 5'6" with short legs, wish it was up 2".

Quality and fit is top notch. I didn't realize how good the Lightech looks until i put the stock set back on, have to make a trip to the dealer to get damn gear issue fixed.
 
#15 ·
Gear Position Teaching

While the sensor can fail, it is more likely that the GPS just needs to be relearned. When the cases grow from engine heat, the sensor starts to lose its position. Have the dealer warm the engine up so it is 220 with the fans on and the cases fully heat soaked, and re teach the gear position sensor. In most cases I have heard about, this is the permanent fix. From what I am told, warranty will pay to do this, Ducati is aware according to my contact and this is the recommended fix
 
#16 ·
While the sensor can fail, it is more likely that the GPS just needs to be relearned. When the cases grow from engine heat, the sensor starts to lose its position. Have the dealer warm the engine up so it is 220 with the fans on and the cases fully heat soaked, and re teach the gear position sensor. In most cases I have heard about, this is the permanent fix. From what I am told, warranty will pay to do this, Ducati is aware according to my contact and this is the recommended fix
My dealership would have trouble making peanut butter and jelly sandwiches..

Unless their making money on the transaction, they ain't fixing or adjusting jack.
 
#18 ·
When the GPS fails, a "Gear Sensor" warning, along with an EOBD indication, are displayed on the dash pad. EBC and DQS turn off and a flashing dash appears in the gear window. If the sensor fails during vehicle operation the bike will continue to run, but fueling will be suboptimal as the ECU is unable to determine which gear has been selected. Upshifts will have to be performed manually. If the GPS fails when the bike is keyed "ON," the side stand will have to be raised and the clutch lever depressed in order to start the bike. Again, this is because the bike doesn't know what gear has been selected.

If the GPS is okay, but only needs to relearn the gears, Ducati's "Tips and Tricks Bulletin SRV-TTB-16-003" outlines the procedure.
 
#25 ·
This is a known issue, and can easily be corrected by a new sensor. If you do a quick search there are a few threads that speak to this matter. For the DIY'ers, it will take about an hour of your time, and the sensor was somewhere between $150 - $200 last I checked.