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Old February 14th, 2018, 02:07 PM   #1
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1098S Tricolore needing some slipper clutch advice

Hello Everybody!

I am posting this in hopes to get some input/help with my clutch. When I bought the bike (second hand) it came with a slipper clutch installed. Sadly I have no idea what brand it is as the pressure plate has no markings etc. Long story short the clutch sucks horribly. It's very difficult to leave from a stand still and I just want to start from scratch. With that said here is my question!

What slipper clutch would you recommend? I am HIGHLY considering the Pramac Limited Edition slipper (https://www.designcorse.com/products...slipper-clutch)

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the EVR CTS Slipper (https://motowheels.com/i-7179400-evr...nd-basket.html)

Again, any advice would be appreciated ESPECIALLY if its about the Pramac LE. I know many race bikes use them and they're very low maintenance. FYI I mainly use the duc on the street and ride aggressive in the twisties/hills of northern Arizona. I also do about 2-3 trackdays a year. Just depends on how busy the year is. Thanks again!
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Old February 15th, 2018, 04:35 AM   #2
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hey.

a different opinion, i was loooking for a used/cheap slipper for trackdays. similar to you i go 3-7 times per year.

unable to find a used one, i bought the cheapest i found, K-bike one from italy. i kept the stock bell and disks, costed me 310 euros.

it works perfectly.
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Old February 15th, 2018, 10:05 AM   #3
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I don't think you have a slipper clutch problem. I would recommend taking the clutch apart and cleaning the metal spacers. They get rust on them and then it is hard to take off from a stop or it will make noise coming from a stop. I would also bleed the clutch system. That will most likely fix your problems without spending money.
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The Ducati dry clutch sucks.

And I own an 1198....
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Old February 16th, 2018, 10:52 AM   #5
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Ducati dry clutches are awesome. You can fix them in 10 min. You don't have to take side covers off and change oil to replace the clutch.

They make noise. The more worn out they are the more noise they make.
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The Ducati dry clutch sucks.

And I own an 1198....
Youíre just full of conspiracy theories and misinformation lately , arenít you.?
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First, I would make sure the clutch master and slave cylinders are bled properly and you are getting full throw. If that doesn't help, I did videos on this. I understand that the clutch packs are different but, its really only a difference of wet vs dry. These bikes are very prone to clutch drag.

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For the record, follow the 1098 manual for the clutch pack and engine case. Don't use my numbers since they are from the 848 manual.
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I love the videos. Great post. Thank You.
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First of all, thank ya'll for your responses. I do appreciate the input. Also, thank you Ready4Axion for the awesome videos. My clutch master and slave cylinders are both good. I disassembled the clutch and it's def toast. Spider spring is cracked, almost all the steels are glazed, one steel had a big grooves on it, the basket has heavy use markings due to wear, and the pressure plate looks toast... So...

Anyone know anything about running a pramac dry slipper clutch? lol.
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Hi Mate, what ever clutch you buy my recommendation is to make sure you can somehow adjust the rate of slip. I have an EVR in my 848 (wet clutch) and as its the 2016 model clutch i cant buy the parts to alter the rate of slip and its a pain. It it an excellent design, great quality and works perfectly for spirited road use but its difficult to customize the rate of slip to where i want it for the track, where i want a lower rate of engine braking
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