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Old June 18th, 2010, 02:15 PM   #16
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Old June 18th, 2010, 03:03 PM   #17
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If i go with akraprovic, I need which ecu do i use?
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Old June 18th, 2010, 04:01 PM   #18
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Old June 18th, 2010, 04:51 PM   #19
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In order based on your options... with some notes.

1. 1098 Akrapovik slip-on: $999 (www.kyleusa.com) + ECU $

My first choice based on your given options. Titanium Slip-on with Carbon or Titanium Can (I prefer it in Titanium without the badge as Denali 804 mentioned). Works okay without ECU change (bike runs a little sloppy IMO). Works much better with Ducati Performance "Slip-on" ECU & TPS reset/tune, but has the most tune-ability with Microtech ECU/ Nemesis ECU - although you might as well spend the money on a full system at that point.


2. (should be #1 option) 1098 Akrapovik Full System: $2900 (www.kyleusa.com) + ECU $

One of the few full titanium systems with unparalleled craftsmanship and welds. I've heard it works best with a Nemesis or Microtech ECU ($1100) tuned and properly mapped. It is said to be one of the best tuned exhaust for the 848/1098/1198 platform if you exclude the Motocorse Full system.


3. 1098 Termignoni Slip-on: $1700 new (eBay)

It's easy to find used for $1000-$1300

Made from stainless steel so it's heavier than the Akropovik slip-on and the quality falls short of the Akra's. It will come with ECU / filter / plugs for O2 sensors so that should be easy and will still require a TPS reset/ tune.


4. 1098 Termignoni Full System: $2800 new

You can find it used for anywhere from $1400-2400

Made from stainless steel so it's heavier than the Akropovik system and the quality falls short of the Akra's. It will come with ECU / filter / plugs for O2 sensors so that should be easy and will still require a TPS reset/ tune.

Either way, good luck with your choice.
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Old June 18th, 2010, 05:46 PM   #20
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Why? Have used Akra full systems on 1098 and 1198 now with std ecu and it worked fine.
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Old June 18th, 2010, 05:51 PM   #21
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The way I decided was rather then look at the exhaust I looked at the capabilities of the ECU's. When you look at the ECU's you realize that the Microtech kicks the crap out of the Ducati supplied ECU with the Termis(If you work on your own Bike).

So then you look at the exhaust systems without the ECU and for me it'll be the Akra'. Just my opinion
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Old June 18th, 2010, 05:55 PM   #22
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1. 1098 Akrapovik slip-on: $999 (www.kyleusa.com) + ECU $

My first choice based on your given options. Titanium Slip-on with Carbon or Titanium Can (I prefer it in Titanium without the badge as Denali 804 mentioned). Works okay without ECU change (bike runs a little sloppy IMO). Works much better with Ducati Performance "Slip-on" ECU & TPS reset/tune, but has the most tune-ability with Microtech ECU/ Nemesis ECU - although you might as well spend the money on a full system at that point.


2. (should be #1 option) 1098 Akrapovik Full System: $2900 (www.kyleusa.com) + ECU $

One of the few full titanium systems with unparalleled craftsmanship and welds. I've heard it works best with a Nemesis or Microtech ECU ($1100) tuned and properly mapped. It is said to be one of the best tuned exhaust for the 848/1098/1198 platform if you exclude the Motocorse Full system.


3. 1098 Termignoni Slip-on: $1700 new (eBay)

It's easy to find used for $1000-$1300

Made from stainless steel so it's heavier than the Akropovik slip-on and the quality falls short of the Akra's. It will come with ECU / filter / plugs for O2 sensors so that should be easy and will still require a TPS reset/ tune.


4. 1098 Termignoni Full System: $2800 new

You can find it used for anywhere from $1400-2400

Made from stainless steel so it's heavier than the Akropovik system and the quality falls short of the Akra's. It will come with ECU / filter / plugs for O2 sensors so that should be easy and will still require a TPS reset/ tune.

Either way, good luck with your choice.
...nice research and good read Luke...
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Old June 18th, 2010, 09:46 PM   #23
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Easy

I guess since I just put them on I shouldn't ask why none of you are talking about Leo Vince slip on's??
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you can also have your stock ecu reflashed for about $300 to a full system. I sent mine to silverback racing and they had a custom map for an 1198S. Cheapest way IMO. Works great for my bike! Just mailed it to them and they mailed it back right away.
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Old June 18th, 2010, 10:25 PM   #25
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Old June 18th, 2010, 11:27 PM   #26
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New style Termi's for me.
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Old June 18th, 2010, 11:30 PM   #27
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I guess since I just put them on I shouldn't ask why none of you are talking about Leo Vince slip on's??
This thread was about Akra's or termis.........but since you and someone else mentioned my 2 favourites.......it's on like Donkey Kong!! The Leo and Zard are great pipes. Both have fantastic build quality and sound and look great. The Akra's look good too but I have a hate-on with Akra after having to deal with those fuckers from a business end of things.
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Well I like the look of the Akra's over the OLD termi's...... the new termi look is just as sexy IMO.

I'm happy with my A and R "poor man" slip ons for now I just put a Termi sticker on there to add 5hp per can and make up for the stainless weight..... seems to work just fine!

The microtech ECU is da bomb!!! if you don't have it..... GET IT!
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I hate to do this but since someone opened up the gates I must. The arrow slipon's and full systems TALK SHIT like no others. I got more compliments with the titanium/carbon tip arrows because of the sound then any other pipes ive owned. Too bad they don't make them in carbon.
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Leo's

Rode today for the first time since I put the Leo Vince slip on's on and I thought they would be louder. I'm going to take the baffles out tomorrow and see how they sound. I don't want them so loud that I have to wear ear plugs but I want people to know I'm coming.

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