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Old March 22nd, 2011, 09:44 AM   #1
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Anyone move up or ride both 848 and 1198?

Curious to know your thoughts about the two. I've ordered a new 1198 but never been able to ride one. (The dealers won't let you here)

I've only ridden an 848 but not owned it. I've taken it out a few times.

I have been riding for 3 years and did the 250 thing for 2 and a 600 for the third season.

I am looking for someone to compare the 848 with 1198 more.

Truth be told, maybe I'm second guessing myself. I'd probably get a new 848 evo, but concerned that I'd regret it later and want the 1198. I did that same thing with many cars, namely owned a Boxster and couldn't stop thinking about the 911 until I got a new 997.

Any advice (shy of go ride both, cause I cannot) would be most appreciated.

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 10:09 AM   #2
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You will be glad you went with the 1198. The 848 is no slouch, but the 1198 is a superior machine. The 848 is like a base Carrera, while the 1198 is like a 911 Turbo.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 12:51 PM   #3
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I did. Love both machines. No looking back now. The power bump and added bits are great. The 848 was a stellar bike, though. No complaints here.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 01:30 PM   #4
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How does 1st gear in the 1198 compare to the 848? I ask because I work with another gentleman that has a 1098 and basically has stated how "deadly" 1st will be for me in the 1198 considering my lack of experience with larger displacement engines.

I've never ridden any liter bike, muchless the 1198. I have rode the 848 and it is quick. I did not try anything dumb, nor would I, but the question is:
Am I getting paranoid now for no real reason, and are the two pretty comparable?
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 05:18 PM   #5
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As I said in my PM, the bike's front-end likes to come up even with DTC set at 8.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 05:26 PM   #6
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Probably not worth getting paranoid about first gear.
The 1198 has MUCH more mumbo at low revs than the 848 - like almost twice as much - but can be ridden at much lower revs than the 848, making for a more relaxed ride if you want.
The best illustration is probably a mate who only had old Ducatis, but decided to take the plunge on a newie, and bought an 848 thinking it would be plenty for him. Six months later and he has bought an 1198 and loves the upgrade. And of course wishes he bought the 1198 first up.
There is not much extra weight on the bigger capacity models, and they offer higher-spec parts in the S and SP variants. If you can afford the 1198, go for it.
Otherwise you might end up wanting to upgrade and dropping some $$, or regretting buying the lesser model. The 848s are great, but the bigger engined models are just better.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 09:39 PM   #7
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i had both. get the 1198. just dont gun it in first.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 10:09 PM   #8
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I just went from 848 to 1098s, I'm still smiling. Get the big one.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:55 PM   #9
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The power is manageable if you want to ride responsibly. If you don't respect the bike it will kick you off. If you are really worried just shift into second or third really quickly until you get used to it. It sounds like you have enough experience to get the 1198. I went from a r6 to my 1198 and loved it.
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 01:49 AM   #10
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Thanks, guys, and Fortune for the PM. I've also heard some reports about the 1198 being smoother than the 1098. Not sure if that is much fact.

I think that I'll plan to keep the DTC on level 8 and not hang around 1st and 2nd gears for a while.

I am 31 with decent self control, so was more concerned with the surprises than my own show-boating.

This is very appreciated!
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Old March 25th, 2011, 07:31 AM   #11
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Thanks, guys, and Fortune for the PM. I've also heard some reports about the 1198 being smoother than the 1098. Not sure if that is much fact.

I think that I'll plan to keep the DTC on level 8 and not hang around 1st and 2nd gears for a while.

I am 31 with decent self control, so was more concerned with the surprises than my own show-boating.

This is very appreciated!
you will hate the DTC at level 8. you cant go around a corner at 5 mph without it cutting in. set it at level 4 and use some common sense. as for people telling you that the bike will kill you, im sure you have enough sense not to strike a match and stick it in your eye, same with the throttle, have fun. i bought a 2010 848 i january of that year then traded it back in for an 1198s in july. never looked back.
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Old March 25th, 2011, 07:56 AM   #12
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I think that I'll plan to keep the DTC on level 8 and not hang around 1st and 2nd gears for a while.

I am 31 with decent self control, so was more concerned with the surprises than my own show-boating.

This is very appreciated!
You'll be fine. It not a scary, uncontrollable power it's pretty smooth.
I was dead set on a 848 but then I was able to test ride both back to back and went for the 1198.
I have the base model so no DTC and I have no issues with it getting away from me in the lower gears. In fact I find it hard to believe that one person posted that the front end comes up even with the DTC set on 8. I have to purposely try to get the front end up and that's with no DTC.


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From a dead-stop to a spirited acceleration, the front-end feels light to me. I've even witnessed the front tire elevated a bit. I won't mislead you.
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Old March 26th, 2011, 02:56 AM   #14
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I appreciated everyone's advice. I'll continue to take the most cautious approach at first. After time (however long that is) and I feel more comfortable, then I'll dial back the DTC.

No real reason to jump right in.

This whole thread has helped me to justify not backing down to the 848, tho. That is good. I am sure that I would have been wondering what if or trading in within a matter of months.

It still doesn't arrive until the beginning of May.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 05:21 PM   #15
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I rode today. At one point, I believe I felt the DTC kick in. I could be wrong, but it was audible. I gunned it and it kicked in. I set the DTC to 4. We'll see how that feels.
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