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Old March 18th, 2008, 07:58 PM   #1
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1098s track set up

can anyone tell me if they had any problems with their bikes on the track. I just did my first track day on it and the rear spring was way too soft. cranked up compression and it helped quite a bit, but the bikes felt pretty soft on front and rear. more so in the rear. Any advise from some fast riders would be appreciated. If you encountered any other problems would also like to hear.

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Old March 18th, 2008, 08:16 PM   #2
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You must weigh a ton!

Front end waaaaay too soft. I went to 10.5 kg springs and 140 mm oil.

Rear end waaaaaay to hard, waaaaay too much spring. Lighting up the rear end on almost all corner exits. Am going to the new TTX shock next month.

I weigh 165 lbs.

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Old March 18th, 2008, 10:05 PM   #3
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2008 model, Ohlins spring is waaay too soft.
Front feels about right.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 07:15 AM   #4
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same problem 1098S diving corners... front very soft, back very hard (maybe, because design carrying two person...?)
Iam about 80kg..
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There is a great article that addresses exactly this subject in this months RoadRacing World. There is a detailed review of the 1098R and a full discussion of the differences between the street setup and the changes needed for the track setup including suspension settings.
http://www.roadracingworld.com/magazine/current-issue/ shows the cover
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hornetdriver, are you on the S model?
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I agree with you don. the back was way too soft. the rear of the bike was all over the place especially at sudden elevation chages. Laguna's turn 1 (top of the crest) and entering turn 5 I noticed it the most. I spoke to dan kyle today and he mentioned i might want to upgrade to a new rear shock with better valving and high and low speed compression. He also said to upgrade the front forks with superbike valves
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Yes, sir. 2007 "S".

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Old March 20th, 2008, 07:27 AM   #9
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Can I ask how big, or fat are the people, who said 1098S rear is soft...? like I said before I am 80 kg, and rear spring is too hard for me..(talking with öhlins tec. ordering no new spring.)
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I'm about 190lbs and the rear feels good but I front was to soft, had to add a turn of preload(on a 2007 "S"). Are you guys saying the spring rates changed with the 2008 model?
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can anyone tell me if they had any problems with their bikes on the track. I just did my first track day on it and the rear spring was way too soft. cranked up compression and it helped quite a bit, but the bikes felt pretty soft on front and rear. more so in the rear. Any advise from some fast riders would be appreciated. If you encountered any other problems would also like to hear.

thanks, stevo

I think maybe "PreLoad" is what needed to be added. I found the front a little soft and the rear a little hard on my 08. But I didn't even take possesion of it in stock trim, I test rode it stock and then had the suspension tweaked before delivery. Now that I have it properly adjusted it is great!

Front:
Preload: 2 lines showing
Compression: 2 turns out from full stiff
Rebound: 5 clicks out from full stiff

Rear
Preload: 6.5mm of thread showing
Compression: 4 clicks out from full stiff
Rebound: 4 turns out from full stiff

I weigh 200lbs in full gear and I ride very aggressively. These settings have made the stock suspension on the 1098 feel great. It turns in predictably with no problem adjusting my line midcorner even when approaching maximum lean and gives great feedback. Very stable and becomes even more so when leaned over under throttle. I may at some time in the near future get racetech to redo the oil and internals in both front and rear, but only because I am one of those riders that is never satisfied. If I would just put my money in savings I would be riding an "R" right now!
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preload .....2 lines showing?????...there are no lines for preload its the large nut on the top of the shock and it goes by full turns(counter-clock wise) from all the down (clockwise) the 2 lines showing above your triple clamp is ride height
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I'm about 190lbs and the rear feels good but I front was to soft, had to add a turn of preload(on a 2007 "S"). Are you guys saying the spring rates changed with the 2008 model?
I have an 08 "S", European version and weigh about the same as you.

Front was soft and rear hard.

For the road......

I backed off the compression damping on the front by 2 clicks but increased the pre load by 1 full turn. Rebound was OK.

I backed off the pre load on the rear shock by a couple of turns of the ring nut (didnt measure - just by feel) and backed off the compression to 17 clicks out and rebound to 10 clicks out.

Not entirely happy yet but it is getting there......
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In answer to the poster......

On my 08 "S", I found the front soft and the rear stiff with the stock set up, for a 185lb rider, on the road.

I have not taken mine to the track yet but would say that the front would certainly be soft but the rear would be pretty close, if not a little hard for my weight.
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i'm 165 lbs in good shape. been racing and riding for the past 20 years.
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