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Old May 29th, 2013, 08:54 AM   #16
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Yep, I'd have to say bad rod bearing as well.

I was just discussing this in the 848 section about someone wanting to buy a high-mileage 08 848. The rod bearings on the 1098/848's were a huge problem until the Evo2 motor.

Sorry to hear about your issues. Been there, done that, I still have the destroyed shells somewhere in my garage.
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Old May 29th, 2013, 09:06 AM   #17
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either spun rod bearing or completely destroyed rod bearing sounds about right. im sure if i took a look through the oil it would look like half the motor was floating around in there.

hopefully ill find out soon, thanks for the guesses!
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Old May 29th, 2013, 10:47 AM   #18
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Yep, I'd have to say bad rod bearing as well.

I was just discussing this in the 848 section about someone wanting to buy a high-mileage 08 848. The rod bearings on the 1098/848's were a huge problem until the Evo2 motor.

Sorry to hear about your issues. Been there, done that, I still have the destroyed shells somewhere in my garage.
Tye, when you say Evo2 motor are you referring to the 848 Evo's engine from 2011 and up?
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Old May 29th, 2013, 11:12 AM   #19
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Tye, when you say Evo2 motor are you referring to the 848 Evo's engine from 2011 and up?
Yep, the 2011+ machines were updated considerably.
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Yep, the 2011+ machines were updated considerably.
What's different besides the piston crowns, intake ports and throttle bodies? Maybe valve overlap? I was under the impression that there wasn't much change.
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What's different besides the piston crowns, intake ports and throttle bodies? Maybe valve overlap? I was under the impression that there wasn't much change.
The Evo has different main bearings i believe

The shell bearing failures have generally been attributed to crank walk from the weak mains as i understand it. A few Ducati specialists have mentioned mains to me as an upgrade they do when blueprinting for that reason.

The engine builders who i spoke to thought failures on the road were not that common and many issues were on track bikes or road bikes regularly tracked.

There are exceptions to every rule though.
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The main differences from a longevity stand point are the main bearings, all of them are different. The 1198 is substantially more robust then the 1098's, yet it produces a lot more power.
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I kinda remember hearing that its bad to bump start ( running along side the bike and popping it into gear) a duc. Am i wrong?
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Old May 29th, 2013, 05:34 PM   #24
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I kinda remember hearing that its bad to bump start ( running along side the bike and popping it into gear) a duc. Am i wrong?
Its almost impossible to bump start a high compression 1198cc twin.

However, no its not bad for the motor to bump start, not at all.
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I kinda remember hearing that its bad to bump start ( running along side the bike and popping it into gear) a duc. Am i wrong?
its definitely hard to bump it, but popping out in 3rd gear at 20 mph ish it shouldve at least tried and not just locked up.

dealership came to pick it up today, hopefully they can take care of me a little bit. if not ill probably just take it apart myself and let yall know what happened!
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its definitely hard to bump it, but popping out in 3rd gear at 20 mph ish it shouldve at least tried and not just locked up.
Yea man, ya gotta be a pretty good runner to hit 20mph when pushing a bike!

ROFL!!!!
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Yea man, ya gotta be a pretty good runner to hit 20mph when pushing a bike!

ROFL!!!!

Pretty damn good for a fat guy eh??
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so i finally found out what happened.

the end cap on the horizontal cylinder connecting rod came loose some how, popped off and fell into the case. when the piston came down to bottom dead center the con rod popped off the crank and was just sitting there, so when the crank came back around it hit the con rod and bent the thing all to hell and broke the horizontal cylinder in half.

first time ive ever heard of an end cap falling off in any kind of motor ever! mustve been a friday build.
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Yikes. That was still a "factory assembly"? Nobody had that apart at some point?
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Old June 1st, 2013, 05:29 PM   #30
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Hmm... over-heating can stretch those bolts, but if they're completely in tact and the bearing clam shells are good then I'm gonna have to give a "shrug" on that one!
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