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Old January 17th, 2015, 07:08 PM   #16
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As to the caliper bracket - I am pretty sure they too are different between the 848 and the bigger models.
The disc mounts on the 848 are on a smaller diameter than the 1X98s. The discs are quite different, back to back.
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Now.. Who do I know that's friends with Jake Zemke?
Does friends of facebook count?

I do know Rod Snyder, owner of TPL Racing, whom Zemke rode an 848 with a couple of years ago.
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Old January 17th, 2015, 09:11 PM   #18
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Does friends of facebook count?

I do know Rod Snyder, owner of TPL Racing, whom Zemke rode an 848 with a couple of years ago.
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Old January 17th, 2015, 10:24 PM   #19
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As to the caliper bracket - I am pretty sure they too are different between the 848 and the bigger models.
The disc mounts on the 848 are on a smaller diameter than the 1X98s. The discs are quite different, back to back.
See this is what I had heard also. The rotor/caliper bracket is different but the hubs are interchangeable from swinger to swinger. You can take a 848 hub and put it into and 1x98 swinger and vica versa.

I remember chatting with the guys from Blackstone Tech about their carbon fiber swingarm as they had the same listed that it required the 1x98 hub assembly. When I contacted them, they said they put down the 1x98 hub assembly simply because they never tried the smaller 848 set up. They said for all they knew it would work but because they never actually tried one, they weren't going to list it.

I'm almost tempted to grab one of them carbon swingers to try it. Same length as the ram but in carbon.
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Old January 17th, 2015, 10:45 PM   #20
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- More gearing and tire options: The stock arm is limited because they needed to make the front cast piece very strong, so it's HUGE. As a consequence, there isn't much gap between it and the tire itself. This means, the bigger the tires you put on, the more likelihood it will hit the swing arm. If you cut the caliper mounting bolt and pull the eccentric all the way back, you can fit a 190/60 on there perfectly. Much bigger then that and you'll be resorting to a larger arm.
I was able to fit the Pirelli Superbike Slick in 200/60/17 (which I love by the way) stock swingarm without needing to modify (I was ready to do it, but didnt need to) the rear brake bracket, and of course switched my gearing (15/40) and a new chain, but run the eccentric at about 3:30 with a tiny bit more that I could go back, just a tiny bit... But it doesn't rub in this config. Stock gearing, it fit, but with only a mm or so to spare, so as soon as I accelerated, it increased and hit the swingarm. It did slightly buff the weld in the "peak" area of the tire, so I think that gave me a little extra clearance overall. FYI i guess only.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 12:08 AM   #21
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I was able to fit the Pirelli Superbike Slick in 200/60/17
I think your right about that, it may have only been the 195's that don't fit. The 200 is wider and doesn't have that pointy profile. I remember struggling to make the 190/60's fit which are super pointy. I had to bring the arm back to 4:00 in order to make it not rub when hot during a race. It seemed to be totally fine around the pits, but the tire expansion when hot was quite amazing.

Glad you pointed that out.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 08:19 AM   #23
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Sounds like TPL ran the Ducati Corse swingarm for better gear selection combinations and tire issues, not the Magnesium RAM.
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Yes.... gear selection/tire clearance... Mark Sutton has a gr8 gear ratio chart for optimizing the performance of the motor on a variety of tracks.... also records that go back decades from when he was with FBF.... and on an 848 you do not have the wheelie issues as with the 1098R!
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Old January 18th, 2015, 08:43 AM   #25
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I was down @ Jennings with Mark and Jake the first time he rode the DucShop 848, was a very interesting weekend listening to them talk about the bike's set-up!!!!
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I hear Zemke is very good at setting up a bike and knows his shit about that. Especially Hondas, and the 848 since that's what he's got a lot of experience with. At least that's what Rod said.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 10:22 AM   #27
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I hear Zemke is very good at setting up a bike and knows his shit about that. Especially Hondas, and the 848 since that's what he's got a lot of experience with. At least that's what Rod said.
Yeah, it was very cool listening to them communicate about the bike. Two real professionals going about their trade in a business like manner. Jake Zemke is a consummate racer, his personality is really second to none, sooo outgoing!!! Was indeed a special treat!!!
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looking for ways to install a hugger on a Ram swing arm
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looking for ways to install a hugger on a Ram swing arm
If its anything like the Corse swingarm, the only hugger available that I know of is with C-tech composites. Which is really just a swingarm guard of sorts.

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