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Old June 24th, 2008, 04:41 AM   #1
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What do you do when you roll up to red light and you KNOW that the light is run by either a pressure sensor or a metal sensor (Magnetic) and you know the bike will NOT tell the light that there is someone there?

You sit at the intersection for what seems like HOURS PRAYING that a car will pull up behind you and trip the sensor but that doesn't happen and the light never changes to allow you to go!

BLOW the light? I do. I look around really hard and then GO!

YOU???
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Old June 24th, 2008, 05:01 AM   #2
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I have never had that problem while on a motorcycle, at least not yet anyhow. But I would do the same after looking both ways at least 3 or 4 times...
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Old June 24th, 2008, 05:31 AM   #3
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This happens to me all of the time on some of the rural routes I run...I asked a LEO what to do, and he said wait, as it is never legal to cross against a light at an intersection.

A possible solution: Install a rare earth magnet in the chin of your fairing. I have not used this device, I just run the light, but I have heard they work quite well...Sheck it out here...

http://www.thelightchanger.com/

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Old June 24th, 2008, 07:47 AM   #4
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There is often a visible 'wire' loop at the surface of the pavement.

Place your side-stand down so its foot rests directly on this wire-loop. The light will change as normal.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 09:57 AM   #5
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If no vehicle's show up I'll just wait a few more minutes and then go for it slowly.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 10:09 AM   #6
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It's legal in some states to run the light --

http://www.wpde.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=139575
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Old June 24th, 2008, 10:28 AM   #7
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In NJ it's legal to run a red light if the light appears to be defective. A light that won't change because of a motorcycle's weight should be considered defective and hopefully a LEO or a judge would agree.

BTW I once talked to one of the highway maintenence guys and he said that these things are adjustable. If it's a consistant problem with one particular light, call the highway dept and see if they can do anything.

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Old June 24th, 2008, 10:30 AM   #8
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I do the 2 rights turns trick. I know its probably just as illegal, but I feel somewhat better about it.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 10:54 AM   #9
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'm in Michigan, and I actually got pulled over by a cop for this. I pleaded my case, and then asked him what I was supposed to do. He said wait for a "reasonable length of time" (whatever that is), then proceed CAREFULLY through the intersection when traffic is clear. He sais the way I did it (I was rather pissed and took off HARD and made a lot of noise) was NOT what he was looking for. He let me skate though, so I was very thankful!


Now that I think about it, I got pulled over in the same area another time. It was a 4-way stop and four vehicles arrived about the same time, one was a cop. Nobody "dared" to go first so I said "f*** it" and took ass off big time. He pulled me over and chewed me out but no ticket. Yes, I was challenging him to pull me over. When you've gone 24 years without a ticket, you tend to get cocky around The Man.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 11:12 AM   #10
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I know the CA law is if your light does not cycle or is defective, you may proceed with caution. I know the lights around here that don't trigger so usually just wait until it's clear, and when I say clear I mean no one is around, and then treat it like a stop sign.
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Option. But the magnet thing. they sell it on E-bay.
Option 2. go right, than make a U-turn
Option 3. Do the "Reasonable amount of time" thing, but you are left to the mercy of the LO.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 11:20 AM   #12
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What do you do when you roll up to red light and you KNOW that the light is run by either a pressure sensor or a metal sensor (Magnetic) and you know the bike will NOT tell the light that there is someone there?
peewee,

I wait.

Here's a link to a thread from last December about the same thing:

http://www.ducatispot.com/forums/sho...ight=red+light

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Old June 24th, 2008, 03:15 PM   #13
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Ugh don't buy those magnets. Find and take apart an old harddrive.. Ask your IT guy, he'd prolly even pulled the magnets out if you brought him lunch around 11AM (before he's left). That's $20 MUCH better spent IMHO.

In my state it's legal to run the light after you wait a certain period. In my experience the cops that are local will know about the light not tripping. Near where I work I treat it like a stop sign even in front of cops because they know how the lights are.

If you are really that worried, jump off the bike and hit the 'Walk' sign to the right (in the US anyway). It will pretty much always cause the light to change. You could also technically walk the bike across the crosswalk or make a right then pull a u-ie.





But come on... you couldn't figure this out on your own?
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Old July 9th, 2008, 05:37 AM   #14
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I do the 2 rights turns trick. I know its probably just as illegal, but I feel somewhat better about it.
lol, are you serious?
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Old July 9th, 2008, 04:19 PM   #15
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I wait, then run it. In PA, if the light is malfunctioning, you're supposed to treat it as a yellow. Proceed with caution when traffic allows. If my bike is legal, resistered, inspected by the state, and the light doesn't recognize it, the light is malfunctioning. The magnet things are junk. Don't work. They just don't have enough of a field.
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