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Old July 3rd, 2008, 09:19 AM   #1
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I've been griping for a year about the roughness in my engine at low to mid rpm. Someone must have gotten tired of it because the phone rang and the Dealer said "can you bring your bike in?" For what I ask. "DNA is sending a big gun to go over your bike" was the reply. CAN I? CAN I??? says I.

So this fellow whose first name is Karl went over the engine. I'm here to tell you they don't come any better than him. What a perfectionist and an old "bevel head" to boot.

Found all the cams to be retarded 1.5-4 degrees from spec. Reset the C/L's within 1/4 of a degree on all four. Nobody's that good. Checked the lash. Degreed the cams at 180Hz on the belts and reset them to 110 Hz. Then zeroed out all the other adjustments, TPS, trimmers, airscrews etc. and reset all of it to where he liked it. Took him the better part of two days.

Guys, I'm here to tell you that it's not the same bike. Cold starts in two turns, idles smooth, runs smooth, has better off idle response and response everywhere else, makes more power and runs cooler. Even has a nicer exhaust note, the sort where you just know something serious is in there.

And lastly DNA charged me zip. Not one thin dime. You'll never hear a sour note about them from me. It runs so well and is such a pleasure to ride I don't want to get off it. Major kudos to Karl and DNA for going the mile for me.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 09:51 AM   #2
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Wow, who's **** did you have to suck to get that done? Sounds pretty incredible.

Glad to hear it, too bad they couldn't tune everyones bike from the factory like any other bike manuf would do.

Congrats on the new bike
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 09:52 AM   #3
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Dang aren't you the lucky one! Thankfully, mine has always started and run like yours does now. Within 1/4 of a degree? Sheez, there's some luck involved there along with a boat load of trial-and-error.
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No luck, the guy's that good. And yeah, I am the lucky one. However if he could get it right why wasn't it that way from day one? Doesn't matter now-it's sweet.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 10:28 PM   #5
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Hope all the dealers are listening

MIne has gotten better after the 600 mile service and the Termi exhaust, but my gut rells me it should be better..................hope all the dealers are reading this thread...

Thanks for sharing
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...... However if he could get it right why wasn't it that way from day one? Doesn't matter now-it's sweet.
I guess the production line guys/gals aren't given enough time or equipment to get it spot on. From what I've heard over the years it's always been 'near enough'. It's a bit like the good ol fashioned 'blue print' the motor.
I guess these are a relatively high state of tune kind of motor and a few degrees here and there really does make a difference. And it didn't cost you a dime ya lucky bugger. Who said karma doesn't exist??
Maybe the old fella should mentor the young pup Chakarji.
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 10:59 PM   #7
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does karl have a sister?
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not only did my 600 mile went like shit, but I got the bike back and went home to find out
2 bolts of the plastic fram under the gas tank is missing! also the oil is over filled!

and this dealer supposedly one of the best out there
owned by a family, but this experience have turned me off completely...

Anyways, good to hear that your bike is running better, with the throughout
check of the engine and chip settings, its expected!

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To have each unit hand-tuned and blue printed at the factory would probably add another couple thousand dollars to the sticker so maybe it becomes a marketing decision.
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so the 1098 would cost $18-19k and run like a top? I'd pay for that.
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Cloudrider, have you done any engine related mods to your bike? Did DNA question the mods?
Slipons or full exhaust, with or with our a new ECU?
Removal of the Charcol Canister?
Disabling the Exhaust valve?
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Buying a bike is like buying car it should run as it suppose to especially for the higher priced vehicles. Could you imagine you have to turn in your BMW, Benz Lex even a Hyundai (unless it's a Yugo) to the dealer after you purchase it to get it run right? The advertised price should include a good running vehicle Insted of chasingthe manufacturer.

Oh well , no I will not pay extra, sorry.
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homey,

The only things I've done are remove the cannister and shorten the cans. Nothing was said or even hinted at either by the dealer or the Tech. I did have a PCIII on there but took it off because I believed with the right tune it wasn't neccessary. QED. No exhaust valve to dick with as it's got the Termi set up.
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Oh well , no I will not pay extra, sorry.
You already did pay extra. You could have had any of the Japanese liter bikes for less.
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Took a 150 mile putt yesterday, both traffic and 65-70 mph on the highway. Got a solid 40mpg. Light came on at 100 miles and had another 40 to go to get fuel. Better than it was and still a dream to ride.
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