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Old September 17th, 2008, 07:22 AM   #31
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but also had one on the rear window. That means he can nail you if you're speeding up BEHIND his patrol car. Damn, they're getting sneaky!
I got a speeding ticket back in 89 or 90 heading through Crow Canyon Road here in the Bay Area. This cop was parked in a left turn lane right after a right turn and as I came around the turn the radar device they had in their rear window got me. Nothing surprises me with those coppers anymore! ;-)
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Old September 17th, 2008, 07:29 AM   #32
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I love my HARD on with my Valentine! Only way to go! 30,000 miles and it never has failed to go off!
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Old September 17th, 2008, 07:31 AM   #33
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formersver: I want to see a pic of that black 63-64 Lincoln.
good catch elevens...saw your post shortly after I submited mine! ;-)
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Old September 18th, 2008, 09:48 AM   #34
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Which Tech Mount version are you guys using for the fork install. I have a basic bar install mount from them on my other bike and wanted to switch mounting bases for the Duc.
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Old September 18th, 2008, 10:50 AM   #35
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Old September 28th, 2008, 11:04 PM   #36
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So my Sti Driver radar detector, mount and HARD system are working great. Awesome investment, and easily installation. grand total came out to $650

got everything from the following:
www.radarbusters.com (mount and hard system)
http://www.lesscoelectronics.com/ (bought the radar detector from here)

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Old September 29th, 2008, 09:38 AM   #37
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I have no axe to grind on this but if you are really serious about understanding what radar threats are out there then i would think twice about the HARD system.

I have owned a HARD system from when it first came out. I used it a few of times but gave up on it. It's been gathering dust in my junk drawer for years now since from my perspective it's worthless as it’s flashing lights do not discriminate between X, K (& Ka), Lidar or falses like the audible alerts do. Discriminating the type of signal as well as the intensity and frequencies through the audible discriminating alerts something I've grown used to in over 30 years of radar detector use. I refuse to give up on that critical toolset in the war against radar threats.

I wear earplugs everywhere, so I run a single Etymotic RE-6 earbud with it’s 25 Db outside noise reduction in one ear to listing to the radar alerts and an earplug in the another. I have a V1 but use it in the cars, as I don't like the bulk on the bike particularly as you need to buy an additional earphone module for this unit. The module is spendy ($49.00) plus adds to the overall bulk. I like the Escort 8500 & 9500 series for the bikes. They certainly work as well as the V1 (I've used them side by side in the cars to test) and are better adapted to the bikes because oft their size and their built in earphone jack. I miss the threat direction capability of the V1 though but I can't see the unit anyway on my Techmount & the lesser bulk & built in earphone is a deal maker for me.

If you have the HARD & love it that’s great but if you are really serious about radar threats then you may want to reevaluate how you receive them and what toolsets you choose to interpret them. I for one won't leave the most critical & useful radar detection tools, the audible alerts, at home.

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Old September 29th, 2008, 10:03 AM   #38
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I have no axe to grind on this but if you are really serious about understanding what radar threats are out there then i would think twice about the HARD system.

I have owned a HARD system from when it first came out. I used it a few of times but gave up on it. It's been gathering dust in my junk drawer for years now since from my perspective it's worthless as itís flashing lights do not discriminate between X, K (& Ka), Lidar or falses like the audible alerts do. Discriminating the type of signal as well as the intensity and frequencies through the audible discriminating alerts something I've grown used to in over 30 years of radar detector use. I refuse to give up on that critical toolset in the war against radar threats.

I wear earplugs everywhere, so I run a single Etymotic RE-6 earbud with itís 25 Db outside noise reduction in one ear to listing to the radar alerts and an earplug in the another. I have a V1 but use it in the cars, as I don't like the bulk on the bike particularly as you need to buy an additional earphone module for this unit. The module is spendy ($49.00) plus adds to the overall bulk. I like the Escort 8500 & 9500 series for the bikes. They certainly work as well as the V1 (I've used them side by side in the cars to test) and are better adapted to the bikes because oft their size and their built in earphone jack. I miss the threat direction capability of the V1 though but I can't see the unit anyway on my Techmount & the lesser bulk & built in earphone is a deal maker for me.

If you have the HARD & love it thatís great but if you are really serious about radar threats then you may want to reevaluate how you receive them and what toolsets you choose to interpret them. I for one won't leave the most critical & useful radar detection tools, the audible alerts, at home.

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I posted another thread to see if anyone has used a system called VIZALERT but not no responses. It is like the AHRD system but actually have different color LEDs to differentiate between the radar bands. You might want to check that out. I'd also like to know if it works well at all.
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Old October 8th, 2008, 03:37 PM   #39
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i don't care when the hard system blinks sometimes when there is no cop. Because for every few false reads, there is one that saves me from a cop. Happened to me on Sat. my radar detector and hard system saved me from a ticket, picked up the cop about a 1/4mile before
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I have no axe to grind on this but if you are really serious about understanding what radar threats are out there then i would think twice about the HARD system.

I have owned a HARD system from when it first came out. I used it a few of times but gave up on it. It's been gathering dust in my junk drawer for years now since from my perspective it's worthless as itís flashing lights do not discriminate between X, K (& Ka), Lidar or falses like the audible alerts do. Discriminating the type of signal as well as the intensity and frequencies through the audible discriminating alerts something I've grown used to in over 30 years of radar detector use. I refuse to give up on that critical toolset in the war against radar threats.

I wear earplugs everywhere, so I run a single Etymotic RE-6 earbud with itís 25 Db outside noise reduction in one ear to listing to the radar alerts and an earplug in the another. I have a V1 but use it in the cars, as I don't like the bulk on the bike particularly as you need to buy an additional earphone module for this unit. The module is spendy ($49.00) plus adds to the overall bulk. I like the Escort 8500 & 9500 series for the bikes. They certainly work as well as the V1 (I've used them side by side in the cars to test) and are better adapted to the bikes because oft their size and their built in earphone jack. I miss the threat direction capability of the V1 though but I can't see the unit anyway on my Techmount & the lesser bulk & built in earphone is a deal maker for me.

If you have the HARD & love it thatís great but if you are really serious about radar threats then you may want to reevaluate how you receive them and what toolsets you choose to interpret them. I for one won't leave the most critical & useful radar detection tools, the audible alerts, at home.

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Amen on all points. V1 owner, former HARD user... HARD is better on paper than in real use in my humble opinion.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 10:50 AM   #41
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I have no axe to grind on this but if you are really serious about understanding what radar threats are out there then i would think twice about the HARD system.

I have owned a HARD system from when it first came out. I used it a few of times but gave up on it. It's been gathering dust in my junk drawer for years now since from my perspective it's worthless as itís flashing lights do not discriminate between X, K (& Ka), Lidar or falses like the audible alerts do. Discriminating the type of signal as well as the intensity and frequencies through the audible discriminating alerts something I've grown used to in over 30 years of radar detector use. I refuse to give up on that critical toolset in the war against radar threats.

I wear earplugs everywhere, so I run a single Etymotic RE-6 earbud with itís 25 Db outside noise reduction in one ear to listing to the radar alerts and an earplug in the another. I have a V1 but use it in the cars, as I don't like the bulk on the bike particularly as you need to buy an additional earphone module for this unit. The module is spendy ($49.00) plus adds to the overall bulk. I like the Escort 8500 & 9500 series for the bikes. They certainly work as well as the V1 (I've used them side by side in the cars to test) and are better adapted to the bikes because oft their size and their built in earphone jack. I miss the threat direction capability of the V1 though but I can't see the unit anyway on my Techmount & the lesser bulk & built in earphone is a deal maker for me.

If you have the HARD & love it thatís great but if you are really serious about radar threats then you may want to reevaluate how you receive them and what toolsets you choose to interpret them. I for one won't leave the most critical & useful radar detection tools, the audible alerts, at home.

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Chris - I have similar radar experience, about 33 years, most with V1 and BEL detectors in two or three vehicles at a time.

I would agree with your HARD evaluation IF it is used in the city where radar signals are frequent and varied. But away from town, on the highway, on the back roads is where the HARD really earns it's keep. ANY radar under those conditions is most likely a threat, so the HARD does it's job and does it better than anything I know of.

Basically I view ANY radar detector essentially USELESS in the city, but MANDATORY on the highway and back roads.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:26 PM   #42
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I can see how that works for you & it makes sense. Wish it were the same for me because the earplug wires suck. I travel a lot, with many miles in unknown territory in deep county but around little towns that seem to get kicks & a revenue boost from tickets. I'm much less comfortable not knowing if I'm dealing with a threat or a falses.

Agree completely with using detectors in the city. On city streets I generally turn the detectors off or turn the volume all the way down.

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Chris - SNIP ...But away from town, on the highway, on the back roads is where the HARD really earns it's keep. ANY radar under those conditions is most likely a threat, so the HARD does it's job and does it better than anything I know of.

Basically I view ANY radar detector essentially USELESS in the city, but MANDATORY on the highway and back roads.
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Old October 9th, 2008, 05:00 PM   #43
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I have owned a Escort for years and love it. I like the helmet thing though.
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is there any good way to mount

the detector w/ a speedymoto upper clamp? i had the tech mount "well still have it" but now i have no space on the forks to add the mount as the upper clamp sits high on the fork tubes. thanx
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I will take a pic of mine ebrew... I used a longer mounting screw and a nylon spacer from Loews... works perfect for my radar and my Ant camera.
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