[EL Twin]

I swapped a 1098 engine into an 1198 bike to replace a blown engine earlier this year. Headers are different, throttle bodies different, and in this particular case the crank sensor was also different. As mentioned the ECU was way off.

Easiest way I have found to protect any engine is a pressure switch in the oil delivery line.... as soon as it loses pressure below an acceptably 'safe' level it cuts ignition. The secondary advantage is it won't fire up until the engine has 'safe' oil pressure.

 

[IL_MOSTRO]

Do we know for sure the 2008+ are equipped with this from the factory?

 

[bstar360]

There is a "tip over" switch available, I am not sure if you must have a Microtec 197 for fitment...
But Mark Sutton @ the DucShop has mentioned the item, also Larry Zullo @ Motocorse has talked about the availability. I am installing one this off season.... for sure. Ducati motors do not like being on the ground, on their left side, while the engine is running. Instant death to the rod berings, through oil starvation. May not show up for a 1000 miles of use,.... but it is done!!! Right side tip overs, not so bad!!!

Bob, so the Microtec needs a separate sensor for the tip over to work?
I see on the Microtec config page there is a Drop switch that can be switched on or off, is this the one for tip over? I assumed the tip over function was built into the ECU?

 

[219R]

Not totally sure about all the details, but I have talked to Mark and Larry Zullo (Motocorse) so I know it is available. Seems like the cost was 2 to 3 hundred and plug in. I am getting one in the next few months, so I will know more soon. In the meantime, if you need it sooner, you know who to contact....

 

[bstar360]

Not totally sure about all the details, but I have talked to Mark and Larry Zullo (Motocorse) so I know it is available. Seems like the cost was 2 to 3 hundred and plug in. I am getting one in the next few months, so I will know more soon. In the meantime, if you need it sooner, you know who to contact....

Yeah I have just sent him a email so I will let you know if I find anything out. Cheap insurance at $200/300 if that's correct.
Thanks for the info and help.

 

[bstar360]

Heard back from Mark,
Looks like gotta find our own tip switch and wire it in to the Microtec.

 

[Agr0]

Heard back from Mark,
Looks like gotta find our own tip switch and wire it in to the Microtec.

Side thought: Shouldnt there be a way to get a tip switch and wire it in to the bike, no matter the ECU? You could wire it up directly to the wires for the kickstand, which kills the engine. Like somehow buy some sensor like this
http://www.hyosungparts.asia/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=313

then bolt it somewhere, extend the wires somehow, etc?

 

[bstar360]

What you say makes sense and should work. The Microtec ECU has a setting for a tip switch and can be switched on or off at will.

 

[Agr0]

What you say makes sense and should work. The Microtec ECU has a setting for a tip switch and can be switched on or off at will.

I just bought one off eBay for an Aprilia RSV4 that is old and cheap. I'll hook up my volt meter to the bike soon and see what I get out of the plug. I have an extra switch I can plug in to it (I have a kickstand kill switch plugged in to it now, that terminates it so it thinks the stand is down). I may need to add a relay and supply 12V, but I can do all that easy enuf. I'll know more once I get the switch and check out the 1098. maybe this weekend, maybe next. It's so hot now

This may prove totally impossible, but I dont think so. either way I'm only out a few bucks.

 

[bstar360]

See what you get out of which plug?
Can you stick your meter on the wires and tip or roll the switch over to check it's just a simple on/off switch for me please?

 

[Agr0]

See what you get out of which plug?
Can you stick your meter on the wires and tip or roll the switch over to check it's just a simple on/off switch for me please?

I plan on checking that. I also plan on checking the plug where the kickstand sensor plugs in to. Like I said, right now my kickstand is removed and I have a plug inserts that simply makes it think that the kickstand is up, so I'll take that off and check which pin does what, then check the sensor, etc. and see.

:EDIT: I just had an idea that if the bike is in neutral, it would still run with my method. Depending on how more complex it may be to do it another way (perhaps via fuel pump or something else) I may decide to take this as an acceptable risk. It's not in neutral when I'd be going down, it'd be a slim chance it'd get in to neutral only out of 6 gears, right? Something to think about at least....