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I'm having issues with stalling on the 1098. At first i thought it was a first time ducati rider error, but mine's stalled at the lights and in the car park.

I saw the previous posts and no one seems sure of the answer. ECM? Does anyone have a definite answer/fix?

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gavinjones said:
any ducati owners having issues with stalling on the 1098?. At first i thought it was a first time ducati rider error, but mine's stalled at the lights and in the car park.
My dealer was unaware of this issue.

Txs
Do a search there is a post about 250 replies long about it for more details. Short anwser is yes its a problem and yes your dealer should know about it.
 

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Aas long as your ecu is good and your battery is good, I have posted the fix here already. If you missed it here it is again:

Call DNA and let them know you are having the problem.

1) Make sure the battery is putting out the correct voltage and wattage.

2) Re-set the TPS

3) Balance the cylinders to within .3% of each other.

4) Adjust the CO level in both cylinders to around 4.5%

This will solve your stalling problem. As Ducati gets word from its techs around the world that this is what is solving the problem they will probably issue a service bulletin.

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I stayed up till 3 AM CDT reading the stalling thread. Thank you all contributors for all of the information you have communicated about this problem. And CAG, thank you for summarizing the steps which hopefully will alleviate the problem for most of us, until DNA comes up with their "official" fix.

One thing I want to point out to people who haven't been there yet, is that the "STALLING" thread can be found within the 1098 section of the "Specific Superbike" section of this very valuable website. I almost panicked this morning when I just went to this general Ducati forum area, and didn't see the "stalling" thread listed.

I will be riding later today, and I will post anything else I learn or experience IF it provides new knowledge. I will also be meeting with my dealer later today as well.

One final thought - maybe it is because I am older, but I cannot minimize the safety factor of this situation. I keep visualizing trying to walk my bike over to the side of the road when I can't restart it, and getting clipped by someody who comes roaring up on the right side to make a right turn. Or someone coming roaring up from directly behind, and neither expecting me to be stopped in the middle of the road, nor seeing me there as I try to restart my bike. If I was a DNA executive, I don't think I'd be sleeping very well until this problem is rectified.
 

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should i hold off?

Hi, I have been reading about this stalling problem lately. I have a deposit on the black S version which i should be picking up in the next couple of weeks. I was wondering if i should hold off till all of these initial problems are fixed. It doesnt seem that this is a big issue though, it seems that there is a simpl fix. so Do i wait or not. I t wil lbe my first duc...

I do mostly tack riding as i am a coach with nesba and race as well so this will be my first street and track bike combo in a while.... i just dotn wantto spend 20k to have issues then.....thanks for the replies
 

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By waiting you will make someone very happy. There is a long wait list for the black 1098.

Since you do mostly track riding stalling at idle won't be a problem for you. If it does stall and your ecu is not bad, the fix is pretty easy.

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CAG thanks for the reply.... i really dont want to wait.. but to clarify i do mostly race and CR... i also do private highperformance riding with classes with mike himmelsbach. we teach that at beaver run in PA..... THe duc will be more of a street bike though and an occasional track day toy... I have my race bikes and stuff for the track only.. I just wouldnt want to puch the duc tooo tooo hard and risk it on the track.. I mean dont get me wrong anything can happen at any time but i know me i always push the limits, lve dragging he elbows.... :)
so wuld you say 8 out of 10 it is just to lean or a bad ecu? again i have the full termis coming with it with a new ecu do u think i will still have a problem?

thanks i just joined this forum and alreayd have foudn it to be helpful... thanks again
 

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If you have the full Termis (70mm) not the slipons, you will have no problem. As far as I know, the stalling problems were limited to base models and those with slip ons.

With regard to the full system; I would be curious to know if you have the FULL full system or the 1/2 full system. Some folks were told to use one of the stock header pipes and one 70mm header pipe. This sounded quite strange to me, thinking why would one cylinder use a 57mm pipe and another the 70mm. Curiously, it was more than just one person that had this issue.

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NO i have the full on race version.... complete exhaust, new ecu and fliter.... i called and spoke to the manager and asked him bout your previous post if he had heard anything.. he said as far as he knows the complete race kit is a full new exhaust etc.... hope that helps if u need me to ask anything else i will... oh and he know boutthe stalling issue and said ducati has been informed so anyone recieving there 1098s in the next couple months will more than likely not run into any problems and even if they do the new full exhaust ecu and fliter will get rid of it..
 

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I had my 1098s fixed!! It was stalling at lights once it warmed up like most people have mentioned. It's not a problem limited to stock exhausts.

I talked to my mechanic and he said that they basically re-did the setup. The bikes essentially need to be tuned. They're set to run lean because of emissions. When they warm up (or sometimes not even), then tend to stall out.

The cam timing could be off, emissions settings might need to be adjusted (as mentioned by others), or; your ECU might be bad and may need to be replaced.
My dealer told me that if the bike stalls out again (after being tuned), they'll order a replacement ECU.

So there you go. That's what's causing the stalling;
poor setup of the bike to meet emissions standards.
bad cam timing setup.
bad ECU.

This isn't a 600 mile repair and can (and should) be done whenever you can get the bike to the dealership. It's a warrantied repair.

I hope that helps, puts a lot of owners at ease and settles the issue(s).
 

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patryk1098 said:
I had my 1098s fixed!! It was stalling at lights once it warmed up like most people have mentioned. It's not a problem limited to stock exhausts.

I talked to my mechanic and he said that they basically re-did the setup. The bikes essentially need to be tuned. They're set to run lean because of emissions. When they warm up (or sometimes not even), then tend to stall out.

The cam timing could be off, emissions settings might need to be adjusted (as mentioned by others), or; your ECU might be bad and may need to be replaced.
My dealer told me that if the bike stalls out again (after being tuned), they'll order a replacement ECU.

So there you go. That's what's causing the stalling;
poor setup of the bike to meet emissions standards.
bad cam timing setup.
bad ECU.

This isn't a 600 mile repair and can (and should) be done whenever you can get the bike to the dealership. It's a warrantied repair.

I hope that helps, puts a lot of owners at ease and settles the issue(s).
So, they re-did the set up and your stalling issue is fixed? In that case it sounds like your bike was a "set up" issue and not some thing more serious.

congratulations! (Even if you do hate cops, I wish you well :stickpoke)

Thanks for posting your results.

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patryk1098 said:
I had my 1098s fixed!! It was stalling at lights once it warmed up like most people have mentioned. It's not a problem limited to stock exhausts ............. So there you go. That's what's causing the stalling;
poor setup of the bike to meet emissions standards.
bad cam timing setup.
bad ECU.

This isn't a 600 mile repair and can (and should) be done whenever you can get the bike to the dealership. It's a warrantied repair.

I hope that helps, puts a lot of owners at ease and settles the issue(s).
:hitit: same here, my ECU got replaced in warranty, hasn´t stalled since :rolleyes:, i must say that it idles a little bit higher now, 1450-1500 rpm, it used to be 1350 before the ECU switch. I have the 1098S with the stock exhaust. Also the tensioners were replaced with the smaller ones.
 

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two satisfied customers in a row. That is great news. Think Ducati is getting word out to the techs on how to fix the stalling?

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hi guys, i havn't had any stalling problems (tricolore,termi cans+ecu) however my problem is that she idles at anything from 1850-2400 rpm, took it back to dealer and they said that the 70mm ecu should cure this?? will let you all no, its beign fitted on saturday (12th)
 

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Hi Hazzy, I have a Tricolore also that stalls on me occassionally when at idle, I'll send my dealer here to read these postings, hopefully that'll fix that issue for me. More importantly, "how many kms did you have on your bike before the termi cans were put on?". My dealer is telling me that I'd have to do between 2.5 and 5k before they go on. Is this the case? Thanks.
 

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Hi Hazzy, I have a Tricolore also that stalls on me occassionally when at idle, I'll send my dealer here to read these postings, hopefully that'll fix that issue for me. More importantly, "how many kms did you have on your bike before the termi cans were put on?". My dealer is telling me that I'd have to do between 2.5 and 5k before they go on. Is this the case? Thanks.
Nonsense. You can put the cans on immediately.

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Frustrated

Just picked up 1098s with Termi slipons and after 50 mile ride it shut off. I was in first gear entering a right hand turn and let off the throttle only to discover the motor quit, almost dumped it. Not a fun first day. The red oil light came on at the same time and I could swear I saw the dash say "racing" I could be mistaken plus I would hardly call 15 mph racing.
I also discoved after purchasing the DP stand that it did not fit my axel (slightly larger pin), I returned it to the dealer and it was news to them that Ducati has changed the rear axel mid run to a smaller size. Awesome!!
 

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i have 400 miles on mine and for the first 300 i rode it as prescribed and kept it under 6,000 rpm and i had a few stalling issues (and even a noise issue) which bother me because im an anal freak when it comes to my bike, and i consulted a very reliable source my friend who is a highly respected motorcycle mechanic and he said dont baby like ducati says to, he said ride it hard like normal with high rpm revs and all and that would fix my problem. Since he told me this i have been taking my rpm's to normal places even to the first redline and since then no stalling or problems what so ever!!!
 

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I just had my ecu changed....stalling the same if not worse than ever :( Any sugestions that I could tell my mechanic?
 

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