The performance difference between the 1198 and the 1098 isn't worth the $4000 difference. Get the 1098 and spend the $4000 on getting your suspension set up properly and a nice exhaust and fueling unit.

 

I don't think there is a $4,000 difference in performance, but you should get which one you want. I would try to get them to throw in the four year service and get the '08.

As far as sitting on the floor for four years, just make sure the services are current and call it good.

1098 + $4k worth of Ohlins parts > 1198.

Although the ohlin suspension would be great, I don't know how much use I would get out of it. I will use this bike primarily for the weekends.

I have my 600RR for daily / track duties.

I keep hearing that the 1198's engine has a big difference over the 1098. I guess I need to know if someone who has ridden both of them can feel that difference from the seat.

Thanks again for all your help.

 

I don't think there is a $4,000 difference in performance, but you should get which one you want. I would try to get them to throw in the four year service and get the '08.

As far as sitting on the floor for four years, just make sure the services are current and call it good.

 

I also think so.

 

Make sure all of the recall work has been done on the 1098.

Pjk

 

I've done some research but can you please expand on this.

1. Expanding tank
2. Radiator leak
3. Voltage regulator?

Anything else I should ask for?

Thanks again.

 

1098 + $4k worth of Ohlins parts > 1198.

 

There was a fix or fixes for stalling after the bike got up over a certain temp. And I thought there was something about the rear sprocket.

BTW, I'd do the 1098 vs the 1198.

Pjk

 

1098.

i have no problem running w/ 1198's @ all.

 

I see you're from Calgary - there's a 2010 1198S Corse at Walt with only 1100kms (~685 miles) for $22k. Not sure if that would interest you or not.

(I know that this is my first post, but I can assure you that I don't work there. I'm on the "other" Ducati board, but creep this one from time to time.)

 

I see you're from Calgary - there's a 2010 1198S Corse at Walt with only 1100kms (~685 miles) for $22k. .

Grab that 1198S Corse!!! That has everything...including aluminum tank, upgraded radiator/VR, special edition...no brainer.

 

If you can swing the 1198s mentioned above then id go that route. If not Id grab the 1098 get all issues fixed/addressed/looked at and then upgrade suspension with some quality parts of your choice.

I dont care what anyone says about the 1198 motor being significantly better than the 1098, it doesnt matter. If you cant keep up with someone its more than likely rider skill. I know plenty of people who ride 600s and keep up with liter bikes all day long unless youre really running on the highway but c'mon how many times do you really do that?

I dont think you plan on racing youre bike for a living so the motor is really not something that is significant enough to worry about.

 

Sounds like sensible advice to me.

 

I ride both and there isn't much in it.
The 1098 with the full exhaust system feels as strong or stronger than a stock 1198.
The 1098 makes similar power to the 1198 if you rev it a little harder.
They both come with the same (too small!) fuel tank - guess which one uses more fuel?
The radiator issue wasn't sorted until mid-2010, so both of those bikes may experience the problem.
The SP with the bigger alloy tank would have to be worth the extra $$. The fuel range is probably the worst feature of these bikes.
And it won't have been sitting around for years.

 

Yeah the sitting around part worries me a bit but the guys at this dealership have had lots of ducati experience (27 years I think?) and say that if the fluids / belts are changed out then there shouldn't be a problem.

Besides if it's on warranty I should be alright.

The shop is pretty sweet. They also have a Moto guzzi MGS01 and a Desmo RR!

 

I wouldn't be to worried about Ohlins suspension. Race-Tech make a great valve kit for the stock Showa pieces and a good set of springs frt and rear will have it handling as good as the Ohlins that come on the S model or better as it will be set up for your weight.

At $15,000 OTD.......I'd be writing that cheque for it!!

 

I have my dyno sheet i can upload if you can find someone else with one for a 1098. They're really all relative to where you live tho so they will vary a bit I believe.

 

Love2ride I think a 1198 with full termi's should dyno around 163 to 166 at rear tire and a 1098 is 10 hp less I believe .

 

The 1198S Corse still sounds like the best deal. You get:

Ohlins, aluminum tank, 1198 motor, (new style Termi's came standard with the Corse), Marchisini forged rims, paint scheme, the list goes on...


For the money, the 1198S is "more bang for your buck"

 

if you want all the fruit, the 1198 corse is the way to go, you get a full warranty with the 1098 and at 15k it's a good deal, not often you can buy a new bike with most of the depreciation taken care of! but frankly, if you were going to buy ohlins, wheels and exhaust the corse is a no brainer

 

The difference in price between the 1098 and the newer 1198 Corse amounts to more than it would cost to upgrade the better bits onto a 1098.
Your perspective on how much you are/aren't going to want to upgrade your bike will change once you've been riding it for a while. As in - you might end up as hooked as any of us.
Most of us end up spending a lot, but getting great satisfaction from the step-by-step improvements.
The newer high-line model won't go through much of that, as so much has already been done. But it will be the better model all through, and pay a dividend when you eventually want to sell it.
Comes down to how much you can afford, as usual..

 

I agree either the 1098 or the corse is the best deal. at $20K forget the regular 1198 for $2K more you can have a slightly used corse that has so much more gear on it (would be $2K just to buy the ohlins forks alone).

I think if you can afford it get the corse, maybe see if they'll come down to $21 or even $20K.

for $5 or $6K difference over the 1098 you get:

2 year newer bike
new model
the last dry clutch superbike model
larger/more powerful engine
a 'special edition' model
alloy larger tank
ohlins steering damper
ohlins shock
ohlins forks
termi's
marchi forged rims
unique paint scheme

and a few other little bits. that's a lot of gear for $5K or even the full $7K if you bought it for the full $22K asking price.

with only 1100kms it's possible it was a demo bike or something as that super low kms for someone to have owned it for nearly 2 years.

1098 is still one hell of a bike and it's a good deal but I think if you can afford the extra money you would not regret spending the extra for a bike that is a bit more 'special'. the corse bike will certainly give you better re-sale prospects than a garden variety 1098 will.

 

The biggest difference is in the traction control, 1098 cuts fuel off and the 1198 cuts ignition at the first three levels then the fueling. The 1098 was burning up kats during hard street use with the stock exhaust

 

My 2 cents currently owning both a 848 and 1098 as well as having ridden the 1198. I say pocket a few bucks and get the 1098. It is an amazing ride. The bike has plenty of power in stock mode for us mortals. Enjoy it for a few years and then consider upgrading if you desire, possibly an 1199.

Having just spent a few hours this weekend hitting the backroads on the 1098, it is such a great bike. Even when able to stretch its legs not once did I long for more power. No matter what I lust after in the future that is one bike I will never sell.

 

Yes this was my justification. Thank you for confirming.

 

Thankyou everyone for your advice.

I have decided to go with the 1098. The price is just too hard to argue. 15K OTD makes it around 14.2K if I remove the tax + dealer fees.

This is cheaper than most brand new japanese 1000s.

Now I can have some left over money for the termis I so desire.

Going to pay for it today and hopefully pick it up on friday

Thank you all again.

 

Sensible choice.

By the way do you watch the Calgary Canucks Rugby Team?

 

Good job. Enjoy the bike....when you get it.

 

always hard to make a choice. congrats and post some pics

 

I'm sure you'll love it. Definitely get some pics up when you can

 

Will do! Thanks a lot guys. I feel like a kid at a candy store. Just overly excited haha.

 

That's awesome. While I have bought and sold many bikes over the last 15 years my 08 1098 is my favorite by far. While it is such a thrill to ride it also looks stunning just sitting still. It was the 1st bike I have ever owned that my wife actually complimented. That speaks to the beauty of it.

Good times ahead for you my friend!

 

The looks are what sold me on it!

So I picked it up on friday after work and have put around 220kms on it this wknd.

A few impressions:

1. I've had to adjust the way I look through the mirrors. Basically I need to stick my elbow out briefly to see whats behind me.

2. The exhaust gets hot! I thought you guys were exaggerating but no. In heavy traffic it would be a nightmare. I suppose I have my cbr for the commuting duties anyway.

3. The noise is truly incredible. Especially in 1st and 2nd gear on and off the throttle. The burbling and little popping noises are pure sex. I've never heard anything like it. Can't even image what it would be like with a full 70mm termi exhaust.

4. Riding impressions are that the bike feels incredibly light (especially compared to a borrowed 04 R1 I had for 5-6 months).

It also is set up super stiff IMO. I like it though since I weigh 200 lbs.

I can't rev it past 6K rpm for break in. (I know there are several schools of thought on how to go about the break in procedure but the people I bought it from have been servicing only ducatis for the past 27 years so I figure I'll listen to them).

So I can't comment much on the power. It feels it will continue to pull really hard once I rev it out. This is the part that is killing me. I want to twist it so badly :violin:

Overall the bike is like a dream come true. I am only 24 but I graduated with an engineering degree and bought this bike as a gift to myself once I started my new career.

Cheers everyone and thanks for listening.

 

EDIT:

Here's a cell phone picture of it with my buddie's 2011 gsxr 750.

He isn't too impressed since I paid around $500 more for my 1098 than he did for his 750