[Scorptc]

Has anyone had their 1098 tested for BHP @ the rear wheel.

Stock bike was 146bhp @ the rear wheel

I had my full Termi exhausted fitted and tuned, the results where 150bhp @ the rear wheel

The bike was a dyno break in and fully tuned.

I would be interested in other peoples results.

I have also heard of really high BHP Values, so this will be interesting.

regards

Scorptc

 

[Armoredsquid]

What's a dyno break in?

Did you use the same dynometer for the stock and Termi runs?

 

[Ten-6]

BHP or "brake horse power" is measured at the crank, your looking for the rear wheel horse power, RWHP.
You can search this board and find all kinds of info on the topic but in a nut shell.....

1098 RWHP: (corrected)

Stock...............................140ish

w/full after market
exhaust, ECU and
performance air filter......150ish

w/above and PCIII.........155ish
(or equivalent)

With oxygenated fuel like VP's U-4 the low 160's is probably within reach.

 

[volcom]

stock 1098 was 144, slip on termi and race ecu , filter, 154 , w full sytem expecting 10 plus , gain , remember all dynos measure differently , this was before bike being broke in , when i get new dyno numbers will post

 

[Ten-6]

stock 1098 was 144, slip on termi and race ecu , filter, 154 , w full sytem expecting 10 plus , gain , remember all dynos measure differently , this was before bike being broke in , when i get new dyno numbers will post

That's where the "corrected" part comes in. Your numbers aren't corrected they're to high, 154 w/slip-ons...not likely.

 

[volcom]

what is corrected

 

[volcom]

why would the shop say it then and show me thye print out, dont get it

 

[Ten-6]

Corrected for ambient air temp, humidity and elevation.


"This Correction Factor Calculator determines the dyno correction factor which is to be multiplied by the actual dyno data to make the resulting corrected readings independent of the effects of temperature, barometric pressure, humidity, and altitude. These calculations are derived from SAE J1349 Revision JUN90.
Air density is affected by the temperature, pressure and humidity of the air. On a hot day, or at high altitude, or on a moist day the air is less dense which means that there is less oxygen available for combustion which, in turn, means that there is also less engine horsepower and torque.
This calculator is specifically intended to help evaluate the data from a chassis dyno run when you would like to know how what the readings would have been if they were taken on an SAE standard dyno."

Crooked River is a good shop, were you able to get a copy to post?

 

[volcom]

not yet the haeder hasnt been installed yet

 

[volcom]

dude your a animal , u should be a race engineer or something

 

[Ten-6]

dude your a animal , u should be a race engineer or something

LOL, copy and paste brother....copy and paste.

 

[Visitor Q]

BHP or "brake horse power" is measured at the crank, your looking for the rear wheel horse power, RWHP.
You can search this board and find all kinds of info on the topic but in a nut shell.....

1098 RWHP: (corrected)

Stock...............................140ish

w/full after market
exhaust, ECU and
performance air filter......150ish

w/above and PCIII.........155ish
(or equivalent)

With oxygenated fuel like VP's U-4 the low 160's is probably within reach.

You really feel the full Termi yeilds 10HP? What are you basing you numbers off of, word of mouth or dyno info.?

Not trying to act a fool here, just curious...

Jason

 

[volcom]

hey no making jokes of my schooling , next year i can start using glue, but the paste tastes so damn good

 

[Ten-6]

You really feel the full Termi yeilds 10HP? What are you basing you numbers off of, word of mouth or dyno info.?

Not trying to act a fool here, just curious...

Jason

That's why I said "ish". Damn it Jason, are you going to make me look for all those dyno graphs again? Which I KNOW you've seen a dozen time by now.

I just realized that with the site change all of our old posts with pics and graphs have been deleted.:banghead:

 

[zman]

Stock my bike came in at 148.7 and believe it or not with the full termi setup, I only gained just over 6rwhp ...154.41 Torque was 85.6 and 86.91 respectively. I was a bit surprised since in Ducati's own literature they state an 8% gain with the full termi system. I can certainly post my printout if you like, but I figured I'd attach this printout which was sent to my dealer in answer to our question regarding the 8% expected gain that turned into 4.28%. This printout has Stock, DP Airfilter, DP Slipons and ECU, and 70mm Full Termi with ECU. Interesting graph.

 

[Scorptc]

BHP or "brake horse power" is measured at the crank, your looking for the rear wheel horse power, RWHP.
You can search this board and find all kinds of info on the topic but in a nut shell.....

1098 RWHP: (corrected)

Stock...............................140ish

w/full after market
exhaust, ECU and
performance air filter......150ish

w/above and PCIII.........155ish
(or equivalent)

With oxygenated fuel like VP's U-4 the low 160's is probably within reach.

Oops My bad I wasn't quite sure which was which on the horse power side of things

 

[Scorptc]

Dyno break in.......the bike is run in on a dyno, heat cool cycles I believe.

The dealer doing the work on my bike said he has found most stock bikes are in the 140 to 145 rwhp

Increases for termi full system normally 4 to 5 rwhp

 

[Visitor Q]

That's why I said "ish". Damn it Jason, are you going to make me look for all those dyno graphs again? Which I KNOW you've seen a dozen time by now.

I just realized that with the site change all of our old posts with pics and graphs have been deleted.:banghead:

Nah... It all sounds about right I guess.

I got the full Termi to install myself, if I can get 8-10 HP out of it I will be very happy but I doubt I will get it dyno'd before I do it all.

Jason

 

[Scorptc]

Oh one other thing, the dealer said also that Dyno readings are influenced by so many factors, they have to compensated for them by offsetting or correcting the figures.
Apparently even if its raining or not will effect it......

The corrections can be a factor in the higher rwhp that is given out by some dyno's


The 8 % increase listed by Ducati maybe for the BHP at the crank.

I was also told that rwhp is approx 10% to 20% lower than @ the crank on average they use 15% (I could be blissfully wrong on the figures..... it's what the dealer told me)

 

[Ten-6]

Oh one other thing, the dealer said also that Dyno readings are influenced by so many factors, they have to compensated for them by offsetting or correcting the figures.
Apparently even if its raining or not will effect it......

Yep.

The corrections can be a factor in the higher rwhp that is given out by some dyno's

Yep.

The 8 % increase listed by Ducati maybe for the BHP at the crank.

Yep.

I was also to that rwhp is approx 10% to 20% lower than @ the crank on average they use 15%

Yep.