1098s Rider buys a 959 Panigale 959 Corse.
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Had a good test today. Wierd Wireed and Wonderful... Only after 3 hours with manual learning how to turn it all off. Made it to reprogram "Race Mode" to 111. I swear the but the balony cans under the bike so you could here more exhaust.
Made it to the edge of the rear tire first ride. Guessed at fork settings and headed out. The race mode is about the only mode you need other than "OFF"...Soon...
Made it to the edge of the rear tire first ride. Guessed at fork settings and headed out. The race mode is about the only mode you need other than "OFF"...Soon...
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Day 3 and I am in love. Set controls to 1-1-1. She wheelies sharply in 1 an2 and 3 over a 100. The power curve is more 500cc two stroke but can be just ridden around at 25 in the state parks. There might just be 150 hp at the crank way up high. Track days are coming, Cool day today but was able to develop a nice acceleration line down the rear and full left hand side on the front. Cannot tell I islipped 3 times today or if the 1 on abs was used. Felt strange but the bars corrected each time. OK I now like a little electronics. I have lost the front end on cold rides for the past 4 years. rear once front 3. All on cold sc3's. Looks like the fast street tire might be a better choice below 50F. Diablo Rosso 4 or considering just 1 time the race wet tire. We are not alone MGP last year had damp 40F degree tracks at times and all Massimo had to say is "We brough enough tires for a good solution"
I cannot imagine what the folks with hyper cars do.
I cannot imagine what the folks with hyper cars do.
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On the 1098 I wheelie out of every corner. I may not be the fastest around but when you are outside a bike that has front tire of the ground at apex you slow down. The 1098 is a prize fight I love it. It has spit me of every October, first cold pavement and tires since summer. You asked how it rides. Most folkse will never se the violence this thing can portrey. Giant fast hard in your face wheelies 1,2,3 zt about 500 rpm before rev limiter. There is more motor inside. I had the bike set to 111 and passed a car in second 80 to 90mph shifted to first acidently. The traction contron along with just that little Engine brake reduction 1. The bike3 slid out an in but felt like only a wobble. The sound was WTF...no GP shift yet. You can ride this bike to work and get home. No traffic though. Race ckutch and gearing. Faster to 130 in curves than the 1098, obviously the 1098s + race motor eats it alive but thats 60 more hp and lighter and almost no rev limiter. I would never spend the money on one of the new 200+ hp Ducatis. If you do all the 1098 is gone. It is for people with tiny hands that stand around alot.
Only buy the course/Ohlins Get lighter wheels as soon as you can. All kidding asside you are 10k away from a real race bike. But at least you have a middle weight class to run in. Hyper bikes get to race Moto America Guys. The humiliation alone is worth the price. Not to be redundant if you put a Street fighter swing arm and 200/60/17 tires and 29mm offset trippltree they are verry similar, center seat to full hang off, just more wheelie over hill tops and corners. That reminds me under full accelleration the little bike almost never wheelies over hilltops like the bigger bike.
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Had to throw caution to the wind. I am getting better and the violent ducati is slowly returning. Lean over farther, get to WFO sooner and force the bike to turn just a kittle farther past apex. There she is wheelie out of turn under full control. FYI I am talking about 90 to 260 degree turns. I slid the right side for the first time in s fast 300 degree sweeper. Touched my toe to the ground. I might be a better rider after this electronic experience.
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OK - Today was abpout anger. I can say with 3/1/3 settings and 15-39 That the damn thing will hit you in the face under full accelration ove a crest or steep hill. I can also say that for full lean lfft gear1 on the flop to the right under full throttle she lifts the front wheel just enough to flop ane catch the nex gear. Think traffic circle entry and straight through exit. When I get the shifter and blipper sorted, and maybe 44t sprocket or 14t front or both. I will be verry happy.
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Has anyone ever put a 200/60 on a 959 corse 2018. Going to try next week. Why? Slicks, 180/55 not so common on track rubber. It took major modifications to stock 1098 swing arm and a Street Fighter Tamed the 1098 down in high speed corners 36/15. I .m oficialy a convert. The Corse will be pretty expensive in track form. Carbon wheels, Maybe on rings, pistons, chrome and balancing. 19mm brake master cylinder, New insrts for front shocks...
Found this on the site:
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It sounds to me like it could be a combination of issues (more about that at the bottom)
I ran the 190/60 medium slick for a while and I liked it a lot. I did my quickest recorded times ever with that tire, it did slide a bit on me, but nothing compared to the Dunlops. I use to slide all over the place with the Dunlop 200 profile 16.5" AMA tires, its as if Dunlop purposely made the tire slide because the American's love that riding style.
I've probably put through 50 sets of 200 profile tires and 20 sets of 190's during my racing life. I will admit, the 200 profile on a 16.5" wheel, does make a difference, because the sidewall is so tall. The down side is, it totally messes up the bikes geometry including trail. So all of a sudden, what you gain from the grip in the back, you loose in the bikes ability to steer. When I switched back to 190's for 2010, I noticed how much easier the bike steered, it was night and day compared to running the 200's. I also felt I gained grip by simply going to a normal 17" tire size. "
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It sounds to me like it could be a combination of issues (more about that at the bottom)
I ran the 190/60 medium slick for a while and I liked it a lot. I did my quickest recorded times ever with that tire, it did slide a bit on me, but nothing compared to the Dunlops. I use to slide all over the place with the Dunlop 200 profile 16.5" AMA tires, its as if Dunlop purposely made the tire slide because the American's love that riding style.
I've probably put through 50 sets of 200 profile tires and 20 sets of 190's during my racing life. I will admit, the 200 profile on a 16.5" wheel, does make a difference, because the sidewall is so tall. The down side is, it totally messes up the bikes geometry including trail. So all of a sudden, what you gain from the grip in the back, you loose in the bikes ability to steer. When I switched back to 190's for 2010, I noticed how much easier the bike steered, it was night and day compared to running the 200's. I also felt I gained grip by simply going to a normal 17" tire size. "
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Verry well said it messes everything up. I have a couple thousand miles on the bike no early spring old rosso supercorse's. I love pirelli. Air down a bit say 24 rear and 29 front and even on 60 degree days on the street at your favorite street track (No mail boxes) you can get 140 F in the rear 70F with hard work and you might see 165...
I am learning more about the controls daily Went 000 for a good while and found I liked a little antilock 2 or 3. Lets me hold the bike down in descending 180 degree turns and get on it harder. I have just gone back to full 3 EBC Engine Brake. Old folks can rpm match in a tight downshift rip it and ad a gear. This old folk can now do it cleaner. I can pin the throttle in 1 or 2 gear waight till just before redline and the front end lifts. With the quick shift just tap a gear. No more rear brake at WOT and the sometimes clunky shift or false neutral.
After my first ride I would have gladly set fire to the bike. Now I am seeing the same fast speeds of the 1098, with plenty of violence. When tamed the flop in a tight s has the front lifting coming out 123 gear and with a little hanging off an closing the knee back in the flop gets with it.
I may never put bigger tires on the back. I am seriously gonsidering adding 3 teeth to the back or pulling from the front. And avoid crossing the 1/n barrier. It is after all almost a testastretta and it will fail into neutral. You cannot play with the shifts using a light touch Stomp on it or pull hard.
Totally in love now. No street 1000cc bikes of friends have passed me yet. This bike is fast when they are not. Not talking 300kph But closer than I eapected.
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