Neucati,BostonDucati said:Advantage to a "full system" is that you get more HP and Torque.
Keep in mind the slip-on upgrade does everything the full system does with only 10.5% increase in power!mrinflux said:Neucati,
The Full Termi System uses much larger exhaust manifolds, larger exhaust pipes, eliminates the O2 sensor, in-line butterfly valve, catalytic converters, and baffles. In addition, it comes with a free-flowing racing air cleaner and a dedicated racing ECU. As BD pointed out, this results in an increase in peformance, (12%).
The real benefit, though, of the Full Termi System is a smooth running 1098. (The extra horsepower is an added bonus!) The Full Termi System makes the 1098 run better because it allows the engine to aspirate easier, both on intake and exhaust. This results in a cooler running engine that runs smoother. No more stalling! The 1098 will not run right with the OEM exhaust. You may be able stop the bike from stalling by changing the ECU, running a PC, adjusting air/fuel ratio, etc..., but with the stock exhaust, the 1098 will not aspirate properly.
The stock exhuaust serves no other purpose other than to get the 1098 through inspection. If you want your 1098 to run like it's supposed to run, remove the junk OEM exhaust and install the Full Termi System. It's worth every penny.
panman said:Keep in mind the slip-on upgrade does everything the full system does with only 10.5% increase in power!
Nope. Geez, this is getting so old. Will this discussion ever end? People who have installed slip-ons only, (be they Termis, or other brands), will be heard to claim that the slip-ons make the same, or almost the same, power as the full system.panman said:Keep in mind the slip-on upgrade does everything the full system does with only 10.5% increase in power!
Neucati,neucati said:so stock headers are only 54mm and after market is 70mm?
Panman,panman said:The pipes are an unnecessary waste of money if you just want a great performing bike.
Being a an engineer myself I totally agree with you. Can you imagine a 1098 with a turbo? Pushing any amount of boost would make you pull 12 o'clocks all day because no one in their right mind would put an extended swing arm on a DUC.panman said:More like 23%, BTW for us motor heads it an't that big a deal. If you really want it to breathe put a turbo on it. Without boost it is just a stock motor and will never reach its potential.