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Damn Demon. 163hp is a really nice figure you got. I just know that on average with a full system and the DP ECU these bikes push 150+/-. I have to get the PC for sure. I know the new PC5 is coming out and it is supposed to be comparable to the Nemesis. How comparable I don't know. Hopefully someone will get one before I do and then we can find out.
 

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Easy, my 848 runs 210hp on 100 octane.
 

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Hey, might have T-Roy for a close buddy. Couple of years ago he was hitting 215 MPH in testing in Malaysia. Might get 200 mph instead of HP with some crazy gearing changes.
Without some serious money and parts, that engine can't make it. Nitrous+ Turbo+ con-rods and forged pistons: No problem. Supercharger, sure enough, But not with standard breathing. Grenade the engine is what will happen without big dough thrown at the motor. Mr. Turbo sells a few kits for IL 4's that will hit those HP numbers. Looks like we have ourselves a bet on. Vegas Style!!:naughty:
 

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Damn Demon. 163hp is a really nice figure you got. I just know that on average with a full system and the DP ECU these bikes push 150+/-. I have to get the PC for sure. I know the new PC5 is coming out and it is supposed to be comparable to the Nemesis. How comparable I don't know. Hopefully someone will get one before I do and then we can find out.
A custom map is a must for this bike, every bike is different,
and without the map is it getting bottlenecked.
I though the same as you before that I might not need the PCIII since I have the DP ECU
but I was wrong for sure, pre-map figures is with
the DP ECU and after map is a huge difference.

Not sure about the PC5 but as we discussed it
in the past, it will not be compatible with the current
1098 models, you can install it however on the 1198
models. :)
 

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No one is going to get 200hp out of a 1098 or 1198. If you think you are you are being scamed. Troy baylis's bike is putting out a claimed 195 at the wheel, that is claimed. You can fudge the dyno correction factors to get higher numbers but that does not mean your bike is really making that. I also have never seen a custom advanced mapped 1098 with a Akrapovic or Termignoni exhaust make more than a true 155hp on the dyno. Thinking that you will get 200hp is like thinking that you can spend 2 trillion dollars and get out of a recession.
 

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No one is going to get 200hp out of a 1098 or 1198. If you think you are you are being scamed. Troy baylis's bike is putting out a claimed 195 at the wheel, that is claimed. You can fudge the dyno correction factors to get higher numbers but that does not mean your bike is really making that. I also have never seen a custom advanced mapped 1098 with a Akrapovic or Termignoni exhaust make more than a true 155hp on the dyno. Thinking that you will get 200hp is like thinking that you can spend 2 trillion dollars and get out of a recession.
Ha! Please. All of the 1098RS's are putting out over 200, sorry to say but if you looked at what superbike spec Suzuki's, Honda's and Yamaha's are putting out then you'd realize that if Troy's bike was putting out 195 he'd be having a lot harder time in a straight line against those other bikes. Watch any WSBK race and you'll see that's not true at all. Don't forget the 1098RS's WEIGH MORE BY RULE!

And it's not power band, they move down the front straights rocking the quick shifter in the power band all of the time.

Sorry, but my 06 GSX-R superstock bike was laying down 180 hp and the 07 was 190 at the wheel. Believe me that Ducati's 1098RS is several orders of magnitude better built than a privateer 06/07 Suzuki.
 

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No one is going to get 200hp out of a 1098 or 1198. If you think you are you are being scamed. Troy baylis's bike is putting out a claimed 195 at the wheel, that is claimed. You can fudge the dyno correction factors to get higher numbers but that does not mean your bike is really making that. I also have never seen a custom advanced mapped 1098 with a Akrapovic or Termignoni exhaust make more than a true 155hp on the dyno. Thinking that you will get 200hp is like thinking that you can spend 2 trillion dollars and get out of a recession.
It seems like you visit allot of chain store shops to get the work
on your bike, that is ofcourse if you own the bike and have done the work
I done on mine. also with minor observation you can see the conditions the
bike was reran on the dyno, it was hotter more humid and still numbers
were good, have it been cooler weather it will get well over 163.
no claim here of 200 hp, but I think your blowing hot air.

While I agree with the first part, it been dynoed at the shop and I also
ran the dyno at another in a different state. numbers
are solid, if you haven't seen it, it does not mean
it cant happen.
 

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....and I guess this goes for the rest too.....Torque is the figure you should be interested in, not so much HP.

Yes, the Japanese bikes put out a lot more HP than the Duke, but that isnt important. The Duke bleeds Torque, and have better figures there.......and that, my little ones, is why they are competitive.
 

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Torque is the worst quality, it's a function of how inefficient the engine is. The torque figures for a ducati aren't that much greater than a gsx-r at all.
 

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lol torque on a ducati hits harder and sooner than any IL4 wishes it could. I've ridden back to back my 1098S and my buddies 09 CBR1000RR and he bike feels like a b!tch down low compared to mine.
 

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I get that for riding around on the street the 1098 is going to give you awesome torque down low and that's amazing and all!

But on the track, sad to say, the advantage is basically gone. Nobody "gets down low" on the track, you keep it up in the rev ranges and certainly above 6K RPM. Below are two dyno graphs for two bikes, first one is my old 06/07 GSX-R superstock bike with the top lines being the accurate ones (bottom were for comparison.

Second graph is someone elses 1098:




 

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It seems like you visit allot of chain store shops to get the work
on your bike, that is ofcourse if you own the bike and have done the work
I done on mine. also with minor observation you can see the conditions the
bike was reran on the dyno, it was hotter more humid and still numbers
were good, have it been cooler weather it will get well over 163.
no claim here of 200 hp, but I think your blowing hot air.

While I agree with the first part, it been dynoed at the shop and I also
ran the dyno at another in a different state. numbers
are solid, if you haven't seen it, it does not mean
it cant happen.

if you really belive you are getting 163hp with full system and pc3 than you have been had and are an idiot. The only way to have cooler weather make a difference to to take off the correction factor from the dyno. Get your sh*t straight.
 

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I get that for riding around on the street the 1098 is going to give you awesome torque down low and that's amazing and all!

But on the track, sad to say, the advantage is basically gone. Nobody "gets down low" on the track, you keep it up in the rev ranges and certainly above 6K RPM. Below are two dyno graphs for two bikes, first one is my old 06/07 GSX-R superstock bike with the top lines being the accurate ones (bottom were for comparison.

Second graph is someone elses 1098:




I really love how you compare a racebike with a streetbike. Why don't you just compare a 1000 to a 600 next and show that the 1000 makes more power???
 

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Oh and BTW my buddy has on 08 1000RR and my 1098 walks that bike up to my max speed. He is even throwing down 154HP and with your calculation HP is all that matters, at least from your graphs.
 
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