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What sort of poor support from the manufacturer are you talking about?When I first sat on a 675r it fit like a glove but it wasn't a Ducati. I got the 848 evo corse instead. It has been a decent bike, but I've put almost $3k into it with no end insight to get it to feel the way it should. Coupled with the poor customer service from multiple dealers and from Ducati USA, I really think I should have gotten the triumph. Unfortunately, I just can't justify the expense of another new Ducati when I have found so little support from the manufacturer. The 899 may well be a better bike, but it doesn't outperform anything when it sits in a shop for a month. Sadly it appears most Triumph dealers are also Ducati dealers, so it spoils that as well. Maybe I'll give the 899 a swing once it is well out of warranty and half the price. The real justification for the extra expense of a new bike is having the luxury of someone else fixing it when it breaks- if they can't be bothered, the expense is a waste.
The component package of the triumph seems to allow it to play with the bigger bikes out of the box, but I wonder how they would do with some tuning, and what the available mods would be. For that matter, what upcoming mods for the 899 would accomplish. It would be nice to see it lose some weight, maybe with a Bimota treatment, to see what the potential really is with this new chassis. It was kind of funny they released it since we heard nothing but 2 years of how Ducati couldn't mini size the panigale engine from so many people on this very forum.
The 675 is a kit racer, so everything exists for it from cam's to rear sets. Ducati hasn't had the same "performance" aftermarket parts since 2006.While there's not much out for the triumph right now there may be some stuff down the pipes. And there's already some aftermarket stuff for the 899 just because it's a sized down 1199 so parts should be available soon.
How do the ergonomics of the 675 make it more track suited? Don't both bikes have the same relative aggressive riding position?you're both half-right.
1) The 899 *does* have monoblocs
2) The 899 *does not* have a slipper clutch.
The owner's manual is simply stating that the EBC works with the slipper clutch in general terms; it doesn't specify that the 899 comes with an OEM slipper. It should more accurately say "works with *a* slipper clutch".
anyway, if the bike is 100% street, 899 for sure - it's a beauty. if you plan on hitting the track at all, 675R hands down. take that $3k or so OTD savings and blow it all at the track.
EDIT: also agree re. apples and oranges. 675R, with race ergos, full Ohlins, quickshifter and the slipper is obviously track-oriented. 899 is obviously far more street-oriented than any of Ducati's previous mids - I dont agree with Tye on this point. The ergos, torque curve etc. all point towards a bike almost purpose-built for the street.
I have been into bikes for about a year now, I am new to this and looking to buy an 899.
None of your posts say what you ride currently... If you are buying your first motorcycle, you will simply have to get some seat time before you will know what you like / don't like. Used jap bikes are good value and are reliable. Good for learning on.I have been into bikes for about a year now, I am new to this and looking to buy an 899.