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I love my Ducati despite some maintenance issues. My first bike was an F4i, and I got my "1st bike" excessive miles out (16k) while owning it. I don't ride the Ducati as much because I'm not so obsessed, and that helps out with putting too many miles on it which works out perfectly.

The fit and finish is very good, the sound and torque make riding it really cool, and people always come up and talk about it, sometimes girls honk, it's funny. My poor buddy with a 600RR feels like crap at the gas stations when we go out.... random dudes say to me: "Nice Ducati man! That's amazing..." To him "Hey dude, uh, that's a nice bike too, but no offense, this one's Italian..." Same day, buddy gets on the 1098 and at the very next gas station a van full of girls honk at him and start talking, ignoring me on his (admittedly raced-out)600RR. It could not have been funnier...
 

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Yeah, that happens too! I have had people cruise up next to me on the motorway and hang out the window with camera's to take pic's. :yo:
 

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I have had a couple of R1's and I loved them, the '06 required a lot more work to get it where I wanted it than my '03. I ultimately decided to go with Ducati because they are simply awesome machines and I had the opportunity to finally buy one. Oh, another push to this direction was that the new R1's are too fugly. The handling, torque, sound, comfort and design is just :naughty:. If you used your mirrors on your R1, you will be somewhat frustrated with the one's on the Ducati, even with the extenders installed.

My R1 mods and pic:

Metzler M3's
MRA Windscreen
Corbin Saddle
Greggs LED Flush Mounts
UFO Tail Light
Graves Full Ti System Oval Pipes
Power Commander III
CRG Adj. Levers (Long)
Ohlins Damper
Graves Adj. Rearsets
BMC Race Filter
Graves Stacks
Graves Smog Plates
Graves Bar Ends
Graves Spools
Magnetic tank pad
OEM Seat Cowl
 

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I just traded my 08 ZX10R Kawasaki, and I must say that the two are very different. To be honest the Kawi is a more comfortable street bike. Power on both is similar,but the Duc is more powerful at cruising speeds(or not going 90MPH). I know it is not an R1, but the two bikes are similar. The Kawi is actually more powerful. If you have ridden the R1 for a while, you will have no problems switching over to an 1198. Hope this helps a bit.
 

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Just ditched my '09 R1 Yesterday and debating on the 848 or the 1198... I am definitely picking one up today.... But which???
 

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Just ditched my '09 R1 Yesterday and debating on the 848 or the 1198... I am definitely picking one up today.... But which???
You won't go wrong with either but I'd get the 1198 if I wanted a street bike to replace an R1.

If you want something you're more likely to push hard and explore your limits on, the 848 is a great choice.

Hell, get both!
 

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rode an 02 R1 for many years, then an 05 zx10r for many years.

neither of them hold a flaming fart to my 08 1098s. ive never ridden a better machine on the track, its so easy to ride fast its scary.

sure, the 1098 has less power on top, but its better everywhere else. i actually have fun riding this bike, the other two were just bikes i beat the shit out of...
 

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One thing to add, working on an I4... granted you don't have to work on the engines that much is far more complicated!! The Ducs are IMHO are much easier to work on. However, with an R1, put on some Marchesini's, Ohlins, and Brembos and you've got yourself a contender but after it's all said and done... the prices will equal out.... for the most part. I do love the look of a raced out R1 though... the street ones are ugly... not like a Duc, good looking bone stock. But yes.... Yamaha's are great for having long intervals between valve adjustments, I've had 3, old and new and I can attest to their bullet proof engines.
 

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to me the '09 was sexy too:
the bike i sold
 

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i came from pee-wee class motocross (2 stroke honda cr 80) in '97, to a '00 yamaha r1 at the age of 16, to a '09 yamaha r1 (cross plane crank)... to a ducati 1198s last thursday.

the '00 r1 was a lunatic. tank-slappers. wheelies. 300km/h. etc.
the '09 r1 is wider. put kindly - with performance (and inner beauty) in mind - more aggressive. looks aside, the cross plane crank works magic in the corners. more civilized than the original r1. and if you're after a sport bike for the road (from a to b; with a little 'giggles' on the side)... you cannot possibly buy a better in-line 4. the sound, smoothness (around corners, and in town), reliability and comfort have redefined the "inline 4 benchmark" - bmw s1000rr included IMHO.

but. BUT..

then there's the Ducati 1198s.

good things:
it redefines the word "sexy". it is the perfect blend of masculine (way it drives) and feminine (way it looks). it redefines the concepts of driving a motorbike - ultimate "new" driving thrill experience (if you're not familiar with twins; ducati twins). sound is otherworldly. it has torque enough to out-torque a fudging tractor (feels like its gonna tear your face off when you accelerate - even 1/2 throttle). if you felt you were valentino rossi on an r1, you can get off, get on a ducati, and you'll realize you were a joke. you RE-learn cornering from scratch. the RIGHT way. and the more you learn (teach yourself, and practice), the BIGGER the reward. it cornering capabilities (extremely precise) confuse any/all of your knowledge of physics. in a nutshell, if you put in the "effort", it is THE most rewarding dream performance machine in the world.

bad things:
3 times hotter than the hottest bike ive ever driven (R1) especially when in slow/stop & go traffic. riding position is pure agony - specially the first few days - solution: go get fit. you need to be godzilla to pull the clutch. paintwork (clearcoat from manufacturer) 'was' a nightmare - it looked like it was spray painted by a baker when i first got it - turns out... all it needed was major detailing! build quality is not the best - considering the tremendous amount of vibration from the v-twin, screws have literally unscrewed themselves and flown away into the sky.

do your homework. read. read. read. prepare yourself for any and all flaws that may arise in order not to let them ruin your 'experience' when the time comes... "advantages of pessimism"

before thursday, in terms of power, i was under the impression, in a straight line, a jap inline 4 1000... would circle around a ducati.

WRONG.

from a standstill (or low rpm start), i reckon i'd be able to out-torque (beat) ANY stock inline 4.

a few days after driving it around and 'trying' to get a grip on all the torque and the 'feel' of it...
i got up and took a gsxr1000 (which i always thought and "felt" to be amongst the strongest bike ive ever driven - with full exhaust/filter/pc/etc) for a spin... for lack of a better word, it felt like a joke. a pussy cat. anything under 8k rpm and all i could feel was "vacuum".

the best way i can describe it all is:

compare a 650ish hp toyota supra (with single turbo - lots of lag)... to a 750ish hp brabus C63 (ultimate response/torque/refined feel of power).

jap crap bikes are like the supra (LAG/ZERO power until very high rpm - pointless)
ducati (inlove with) is like the 1200nm torque brabus c63.

the problem with cars like the brabus c63 is there's too much power/torque for the tires to handle. on the ducati, that problem is non-existant. MAX torque. MAX power. MAX grip. traction control as a bonus.

catch:
if you arent 98647835126678654325 % AWAKE... then you're dead on the Ducati.
 

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one thing i forgot to mention:
i test drove the dealership's 848 yesterday just to see what it was like.
it 'looks' the part. race orientated seating/position/pain part. handling/cornering part. HEAT part. but...

if i compare the transition "excitement" from one bike to another...
-the '09 r1 to ducati 1198s jump, felt even bigger than the jump from 80cc motorcross to '00 r1. it really is THAT much and more.

if you're after that "high"...
the 848 may 'tickle' your fancy (if even that - coming from an inline 4 1000). but the 1098/1198 will ROCK YOUR WORLD so hard you'll fall in love 168 times per minute with her.
 

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i rode a 2010 R1 for quite a while before deciding on a 1098. i like yamaha's and i loved my 02 R1.

the 2010 i rode felt huge, sluggish and well huge.

im glad i bought the duc.
 

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My 1198 is without a doubt faster then a new cbr1000 or a new gsxr1000. Two of my friends have those bikes. I have rode both of them. I have raced them. And I just pull away. They get pissed off when I ride because I get on the duc and they just can't keep up.
 

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i rode a 2010 R1 for quite a while before deciding on a 1098. i like yamaha's and i loved my 02 R1.

the 2010 i rode felt huge, sluggish and well huge.

im glad i bought the duc.
There like that cus people who buy R1's tend to get injured or die, unlike most other comparable bikes where the buyer tends to return in the future for another bike.

R1's are docile because Yamaha are trying not to kill ther customers anymore.
 

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There like that cus people who buy R1's tend to get injured or die, unlike most other comparable bikes where the buyer tends to return in the future for another bike.

R1's are docile because Yamaha are trying not to kill ther customers anymore.

never looked @ it that way. good point.

i do like the crossplane engine, if the bike would trim down and gain a few hp it would be an amazing machine..
 

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yep have to agree had 4 r1's all great bikes . but got bored bought a 1198 put a full system on it awsome never go back to a 4,once you hav jelled its a differant world
 

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I had an 06 R1...Loved that bike. Mod'd suspension...quick shifter..full exhaust from graves.
That bike wanted to pull you arms off...Very violent at higher rpms..Posted my fastest lap
on this bike.

One day just wanted something different, bit didnt want to down grade. It tool me along time
to mod the R1. I wanted something close to what I had.

So went with the 1198s. Completely different bike. Had to change riding style. Very thin to.
I see inline bikes now...WOW they are wide. I love the thin look..

Dont regret a day about my purchase. Love that bike to death except for the price of the mods. Good lord. I need to still feed my kids. LOL..
 

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Put the kids to work so you can afford your mods. Thats what I plan on doing.

+1 on yamaha wanting to keep their riders alive to buy another bike. LOL
 

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I know you guys are talking about later R1's but I had one of the earlier model

grated it was fast in a straight line , but handle it did not and well I had it 2 weeks and it shook it's head 4 times on me in a slight dip in the road

took it to the dealer after the 4th time told him to take it back and sell it

my duc's are rock solid on 97% of surfaces I have ridden on and would never go back to a ill handlling bike do not care how fast they are

it put me off Yamaha forever
 
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