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So I followed the directions to a T. I noticed under heavy braking they are a bit ..... aggressive? Not shimming more like biting, it was a little unsettling.

Is this normal? Also I have lost the high pitched noise I would usually get under heavy braking I kind of miss that...
 
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race pads or street pads? I haven't used ferodo pads in 20 years, the time I tried them I replaced them pretty fast. Didn't like them at all.
 

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race pads or street pads? I haven't used ferodo pads in 20 years, the time I tried them I replaced them pretty fast. Didn't like them at all.

The racing pads version.
 

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I don't try to be a smart a$$ but when going with a better brake system you want them to do what? Anyone anyone? Yes grab and brake BETTER. Just have to learn and adapt to the new system. Mine had much stronger stopping power then the stock brakes.

Yeah I just don't know that I'm that good of a judge. I might of had better braking but I was lacking confidence in my brakes and that's a first on this bike.
 

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can you ride on the street with it still? if so find a spot you can safely get up some speed and learn your new set up gradually. clean dry secluded area work up your feel and confidence, you can do it!
 

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race pads or street pads? I haven't used ferodo pads in 20 years, the time I tried them I replaced them pretty fast. Didn't like them at all.


can you ride on the street with it still? if so find a spot you can safely get up some speed and learn your new set up gradually. clean dry secluded area work up your feel and confidence, you can do it!

I can (not legal) get it on some back roads.

But maybe I should switch back to ebc pads?

What didn't you like about the ferodos?
 
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Yeah I just don't know that I'm that good of a judge. I might of had better braking but I was lacking confidence in my brakes and that's a first on this bike.

Did you put some heat into the pads and disk after you cleaned the gunk off with the old pads? I was told 50-100 times of pulsing stops but nothing super hard. After that they worked very good for me.
 

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Did you put some heat into the pads and disk after you cleaned the gunk off with the old pads? I was told 50-100 times of pulsing stops but nothing super hard. After that they worked very good for me.

Yep followed the instructions. It's under hard braking the very last portion apply pressure on the lever. The brakes seem to almost shimmy.

Also I forgot to mention a coupe times rolling back to the pits they squeaked, my ebc pads never did that.
 

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T it's been 20 years since I tried them, but I remember not liking the feel and the confidence was not there when trying to brake hard. This was back when I was racing in WERA. I have had very good luck with EBC myself.
 

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T it's been 20 years since I tried them, but I remember not liking the feel and the confidence was not there when trying to brake hard. This was back when I was racing in WERA. I have had very good luck with EBC myself.

Exactly how I feel!

Thanks!
 

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try the EBC EPFA pads
I can second this!!! I've been using EBC EPFA pads for the last 8k miles (approx.), primarily on the track and really like them a lot. They're just now getting close to needing replacement and my new pads arrived last week, so I'm ready!

Edit: EPFA244HH is the model number for the 848...
 

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I can second this!!! I've been using EBC EPFA pads for the last 8k miles (approx.), primarily on the track and really like them a lot. They're just now getting close to needing replacement and my new pads arrived last week, so I'm ready!

Edit: EPFA244HH is the model number for the 848...
have you tried the GPFA? they're race/track use only
 

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On EBC site for the 848 (EVO) they show 3 types.

https://ebcbrakesdirect.com/motorcycle/ducati/848-evo-monobloc-front-calipers/2010-2013/32289

EBC Brakes® GPFAX Sintered Race Brake Pads
Part No GPFAX447HH
RACE USE ONLY
Highest known friction level
NOT TÜV tested or ECE R 90 street legal
Lifetime performance guarantee
A RACE ONLY pad blend that out-performs and out-grips anything out there or your money back. These pads have the highest know friction between 0.6 and 0.7 delivering amazing brake effect that makes them unsuitable for road tyres and street use. Guaranteed ZERO brake fade but with perfect heat stability and repeat heat cycling. These pads will endure numerous races and instil confidence.

EBC Brakes® EPFA Extreme Pro Sintered Pads
Part No EPFA447HH

Superbike, street and trackday pad
TÜV and ECE R 90 approved
Ultra high brake effect and lifetime
Perfect braking wet or dry
If a small price premium over the Double-H™ pad is within your budget, the EPFA is a superb choice. With all the attributes of the Double-H™ range these pads feature extra ingredients and vacuum furnace technology that enhances friction levels, stability and feel. Suitable for ride to - ride away trackday type use. These pads are also TÜV tested and ECE R 90 approved. Another benefit is the totally silent braking ability.

EBC Brakes® Double-H™ Sintered Pads
Part No FA447HH

Fast street and superbike pad
TÜV and ECE R 90 approved
Ultra high brake effect and lifetime
Perfect braking wet or dry
The EBC flagship sintered streetsport pad that delivers highest braking power, stability and long life. Ultra high HH rated friction TÜV tested and ECE R 90 brake safety approved, there are few pads on the market to meet or beat the performance of Double-H™ pads. Made in the EBC state-of-the-art sintering plant in Ohio, USA, these pads stop fast - wet or dry - and last for thousands of miles.

Most manufacturers build bikes using sintered metal pads and these are direct replacements for that technology with several differences. First the refined compounds researched and used exclusively EBC are second to none in terms of quality of materials and workmanship. Secondly almost all EBC Double-H™ sintered pads use EBC design perforated stainless steel heat and noise shields on the reverse side, k



I have only ever used the FA447HH and never had a complaint always had confidence in my braking. When I bought the braketech rotors the Ferodo were recommended so I thought I'd try..

So it looks like EBC offers 3 types...
Track only
Street/Track
Street

I think I'll try the Street/Track (EPFA447HH) first thats one up from what I was using.

I'm still not completely understanding the "Sintered" and the Double H.

I did come across this which explain the high pitch sound I use to get, and I like as it's another indicator of how hard I'm braking.

How do sintered brake pads differ from standard? | MCN
 

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I can second this!!! I've been using EBC EPFA pads for the last 8k miles (approx.), primarily on the track and really like them a lot. They're just now getting close to needing replacement and my new pads arrived last week, so I'm ready!

Edit: EPFA244HH is the model number for the 848...
Non EVO number?
 

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yeah go with the EPFA pads, you will feel at home with them. On a side note I felt pretty happy with the stock 848 EVO pads most of the time, I felt they lacked a little slowing down from the main straight at VIR other wise very good
 

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I have not used this pad/rotor combo, so I cannot speak to it, but just wanted to throw something different out there. And this is not meant to insult or anything, but the more aggressive the pads (i.e. race style pads) the more you need to be smooth on the brakes. Its not uncommon for especially a novice racer to panic and stab the brake lever and launch themselves over the handle bars (I haven't launched myself but definitely had an oh shit moment when the rear gets up and starts coming around). I try my best to follow what Ken Hill preaches, with less brakes for longer and first and last 5% stuff.

And on a side note I have the GPFAX pads with stock rotors and I love them.
 
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