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So yesterday, I took the bike for a quick street-ride/shake-down to make sure everything was alright with the Desmo. About half way through my ride it stopped shifting properly.
Limped it back home and took her apart, just as I thought, snapped gear selector return spring. Its an $80 part but none in country. (on order) I guess I'm not doing that track-day at Laguna tomorrow. :mad:
 

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Anybody have one of these laying around on a shelf somewhere ?
 

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Joe-

Call mark at factory pro, his kits use a similar spring, it may get you to your track day, though not sure how your going to pass sound =)
 

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Joe-

Call mark at factory pro, his kits use a similar spring, it may get you to your track day, though not sure how your going to pass sound =)
Thanks Nick, called Factory Pro and having one being sent overnight !!
 

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Very frustrating, Joe! Just went through the same thing. Had to wait a couple of weeks for the spring. The broken one looked exactly like yours -- broken at the same place. I plan to order a spare.
 

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Factory Pro also sells shift detent arms that have ceramic hybrid micro-bearings on the roller instead of just a bushing.
They are supposed to smooth out shifting and reduce missed shifts.
They don't sell them for the Desmosedici (each bike uses two on the shift drum, one inside and one outside), but they might be persuaded to make some or just modify stock Ducati shift detent arms with the bearing roller.
If you are going into the transmission to replace the springs, you could do the arms at the same time.
 

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Factory Pro also sells shift detent arms that have ceramic hybrid micro-bearings on the roller instead of just a bushing.
They are supposed to smooth out shifting and reduce missed shifts.
They don't sell them for the Desmosedici (each bike uses two on the shift drum, one inside and one outside), but they might be persuaded to make some or just modify stock Ducati shift detent arms with the bearing roller.
If you are going into the transmission to replace the springs, you could do the arms at the same time.
The spring that broke that I'm replacing is (luckily) Not in the transmission but under the cover that houses the shift selector mechanism. It's fairly an easy fix. You do have access to one of the detent arms, but the other requires the removal of the transmission to get to.
Good to know about these other available parts though, (for the future, ? Arrrg ! )
 

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I guess we have found another weakness-- need to buy a spare before the next track day. Do you have the part number you bought?

Thanks
The after market part number from Factory Pro is…
# Z95-CNTR-D748
The OEM Ducati spring, of which I will order (To have as back-up) number is.. 799.1.200.1A
I am about to install the new (substitute ) spring, I'll report back later with details of how it works...
 

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The after market part number from Factory Pro is…
# Z95-CNTR-D748
The OEM Ducati spring, of which I will order (To have as back-up) number is.. 799.1.200.1A
I am about to install the new (substitute ) spring, I'll report back later with details of how it works...
Thanks-- be great if the aftermarket version works well- I hope to be tracking my D16 long after OEM parts are no longer available--yeah, wishful thinking.
 

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All back together, tested-out fine. Although it wasn't made specifically for the D16rr, It's the correct size and dimensions. No reason why it won't last for many years, (longer than the OEM part, I'm sure).
The price difference is funny $28 for the Factory Pro
$85 for OEM Ducati…
Oh yeah, forgot to say this….
"What a dumb little part to fail in the first place !"
Makes you kind'a wonder how all those other more important parts are holding-up ??
 

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All back together, tested-out fine. Although it wasn't made specifically for the D16rr, It's the correct size and dimensions. No reason why it won't last for many years, (longer than the OEM part, I'm sure).
The price difference is funny $28 for the Factory Pro
$85 for OEM Ducati…
Oh yeah, forgot to say this….
"What a dumb little part to fail in the first place !"
Makes you kind'a wonder how all those other more important parts are holding-up ??
Broken hair springs seems to be a theme with the D16.
 

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The previous owner of my D16 had this happen to him the first time he rode the bike.
He only did a few 100 miles during his ownership, so hopefully i'm good to go for a long time :)
 

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Based on this thread, I was thinking of getting one for a spare, so I looked on the Factory Pro page.
The after market part number from Factory Pro is… # Z95-CNTR-D748

The OEM Ducati spring, of which I will order (To have as back-up) number is.. 799.1.200.1A
If that Factory Pro number is a Factory Pro part number, I can't find it. Did you mean "z95-D748-114, #29 lighter return spring, replaces 0799.13.110" with an "intro" price of $29.95?

"Number 29 Lighter Shift Shaft Return spring
replaces original Ducati #079913110 and 079913125 and 079920375"


There is more info on the Factory Pro page but for some reason I cannot link it. It says, Ducati Shift Return Spring Kit, easier shifting, Factory Pro 800 869-0497 079913110 and 079913125 and 079920375

http://www.factorypro.com/Install_p...all/Install,CENTERING_spring,Duc,MTS1100.html



The D16 part number is item #21 on p.18, 799.1.200.1A
An online sources says:
GEAR SELECTOR SPRING D16RR/08
$76.77
CODE:79912001A




But if you follow through all the OEM Ducati numbers that Factory Pro gives, you get a bunch of discontinued parts that eventually lead you to SPRING, SHIFT RETURN
$4.48
CODE:79915061A

According to
[url]http://www.desmoduck.com/search.php?partnumber=79915061A

this part is not only cheap, but fits a whole list of 2014 and 2015 models. If you click the link and look at the fiche image, it LOOKS like the same part.

Now I am REALLY confused.

What is the Factory Pro number on the bag in which your spring arrived? Thanks!
 

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Factory pro only sell one type of return spring for Ducati's, so it's pretty easy...
 

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Yes it is a shame when such a valuable model is let down by a two-bob part. This problem arose every now and then over the history of Ducati. It seems like a 'batch' thing.

Certain years would have the problem, as if something wasn't done right with the heat and form process.

We used to get them made in 'Swedish piano wire' by the local spring works, who made springs to order for us for decades.

Sad to see they are finally closing their doors as we speak. So many of these specialist manufacturers disappearing in this new 'smart' world..

:(

And I can put in a word for the Factory Pro ceramic gear locating mechanism. Easier, quicker gearchanges are the reward.

A bit of a pain to replace on the early 1098s due to the Loctite employed on the (special) pivot bolt. Be prepared to replace this bolt if you intend replacing it on this model.

It lives behind the clutch and primary driven gear on the 1X98s. Not sure where on the 'Sedici.
 

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Yes it is a shame when such a valuable model is let down by a two-bob part. This problem arose every now and then over the history of Ducati. It seems like a 'batch' thing.

Certain years would have the problem, as if something wasn't done right with the heat and form process.

We used to get them made in 'Swedish piano wire' by the local spring works, who made springs to order for us for decades.

Sad to see they are finally closing their doors as we speak. So many of these specialist manufacturers disappearing in this new 'smart' world..

:(

And I can put in a word for the Factory Pro ceramic gear locating mechanism. Easier, quicker gearchanges are the reward.

A bit of a pain to replace on the early 1098s due to the Loctite employed on the (special) pivot bolt. Be prepared to replace this bolt if you intend replacing it on this model.

It lives behind the clutch and primary driven gear on the 1X98s. Not sure where on the 'Sedici.
Thanks, Pat -

A tip - Loctite is weakened by heat.

BR -

Marc Salvisberg
Factory Pro: Producers of the EC997 Low Inertia Eddy Current Dynamometer Series and Quality MC performance products
 

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Thanks Marc. I actually did the heat thing, but only gently, given the location.

I believe subsequent models are not as reluctant, but the '07 was a mongrel. Wrong Loctite by miles..

The wide flange on that bolt (plus the tiny Torx engagement) gives it a real bite!

By the time I got it off it needed a nice new one..

:eek:
 
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