[lee]

I was walking my dog, pondering this indiscriminate stalling business, and I came up with the following scenario. Let's say you're either in a high speed sweeper or a tight bend, bike laid over on the chicken strip and the rpm's/speed right up there. Suddenly the engine stalls. Not fantasy- I've read it here. In a very short time, less than a second, all the weight/inertia shifts to the front wheel lightening the rear wheel considerably. Now I may be wrong but I would assume that a 12.5/1 compression engine is going to have a hard time being spun over by a lightened rear wheel, particularly when the wheel is "on the strip". So the wheel stops turning and begins to slide. Mind you now this is going on in a split second. As the wheel starts to slide it heats up the rubber (which is already pretty soft and warm) and a condition known as "reverted rubber hydroplaning" takes place. The wheel is now sliding in a film of molten rubber. This occurs frequently with airliners when the guys lay on the brakes and the anti skid is inop. Anyone wanna' guess the immediate outcome? Doubters will kindly place their bike in the above scenario and hit the kill button without grabbing the clutch. It's supposed to be a surprise. It seems to me that the stalling could be more than just a nuisance or irritant.

 

[Dukesterman]

I was walking my dog, pondering this indiscriminate stalling business, and I came up with the following scenario. Let's say you're either in a high speed sweeper or a tight bend, bike laid over on the chicken strip and the rpm's/speed right up there. Suddenly the engine stalls. Not fantasy- I've read it here. In a very short time, less than a second, all the weight/inertia shifts to the front wheel lightening the rear wheel considerably. Now I may be wrong but I would assume that a 12.5/1 compression engine is going to have a hard time being spun over by a lightened rear wheel, particularly when the wheel is "on the strip". So the wheel stops turning and begins to slide. Mind you now this is going on in a split second. As the wheel starts to slide it heats up the rubber (which is already pretty soft and warm) and a condition known as "reverted rubber hydroplaning" takes place. The wheel is now sliding in a film of molten rubber. This occurs frequently with airliners when the guys lay on the brakes and the anti skid is inop. Anyone wanna' guess the immediate outcome? Doubters will kindly place their bike in the above scenario and hit the kill button without grabbing the clutch. It's supposed to be a surprise. It seems to me that the stalling could be more than just a nuisance or irritant.

My engine only stalls at idle dude not while engine breaking coming onto a highspeed corner.
The good news is that the throttle sticking issue cancels out the stalling issue so its all good problem rectified. :banghead:

 

[paddyduc]

stick to walking the dog u will probably be safer

 

[Visitor Q]

Yeah I think all the stalling that I have heard about with the bike is at idle but hit the kill switch and let us know what happens in that scenario.

Jason

 

[lee]

Jason,

If you will search the archives you will find two instances of stalling while in a corner. In one the rider lost control, went into the opposing lane and was hit by a car. He was smashed up pretty good according to his wife who wrote the post. In the second instance the bike just lowsided and suffered damage while the rider suffered no serious consequencences. So it does happen in regimes other than idle.

 

[r6blade]

:wtf:

 

[boduc]

I don't have stalling problem, but now my engine won't start after I tried using the kill switch as stated above. Help guys I am still leaning in mid corner...HELP!!!!!!!

 

[JohnnyDuc]

That would be a real bad deal brother. I got caught between gears on the track in July, entering a fast right hander, and let me tell you , it was a real JOY.... I babied the thing and went "Straight" until back in gear, but it certainly got my attention. Stalling in a fast sweeper should get your shorts soiled in a hurry.

 

[Visitor Q]

Jason,

If you will search the archives you will find two instances of stalling while in a corner. In one the rider lost control, went into the opposing lane and was hit by a car. He was smashed up pretty good according to his wife who wrote the post. In the second instance the bike just lowsided and suffered damage while the rider suffered no serious consequencences. So it does happen in regimes other than idle.

Now that you mention it, I believe you are correct so I guess we already know what the out come could be.

Jason

 

[Dukesterman]

Jason,

If you will search the archives you will find two instances of stalling while in a corner. In one the rider lost control, went into the opposing lane and was hit by a car. He was smashed up pretty good according to his wife who wrote the post. In the second instance the bike just lowsided and suffered damage while the rider suffered no serious consequencences. So it does happen in regimes other than idle.

Im too lazy to look through the archives but i bet you they lost it
1.because there technique sucked
2.because there technique sucked they got caught between gears or had the clutch engaged while trying to corner
3.because there technique sucked they got caught between gears or had the clutch engaged while trying to corner and the bike now at idle stalled and they crashed.

...but i may be wrong and for the record this is not a jab at those guys (i myself suffer from bad technique) i just dont believe the stalling issue is an issue when engine breaking or when your winding on the throttle...

 

[boduc]

Hey, do I need to turn the kill switch back on to restart it??