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Front kickstand bolt removal

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#1 ·
My bolt in the front position of my kick stand is stripped and needs to be replaced. I have a new bolt to go in & have fixed the threads for it but Im having trouble getting the bolt out due to the spring "pivot."

The pivot that the spring attaches to through a bracket: does that come out somehow? Didnt want to break anything without getting some input from someone that has had to do this.
 
#6 ·
I ground down the part that holds number 6 onto the bracket just a little to get the bolt out and now I have the kickstand on the bike. Ill have to see what angle its leaning at as this is the first time Ive had the bike on the kickstand since I purchased it. It will take some getting use to its not sitting right with me.


-looks mean I like it... Ive never distrusted a kickstand as much as I do this one tho.


-You can see its angle in relation to the front stand sitting in front of it.
 
#9 ·
So I took it out for a ride & set it on its kick stand on level ground and the bike seemed to have leaned more then usual. I bent down to look at the kickstand and the bike came over on me. Luckily the bike is pretty much untouched minus 2 cracks in the lower fairing but the kickstand bracket did not make it...



Now I have to build a custom mounted kickstand as the crank case is not going to hold threads anymore lol. Lucky me.
 
#11 ·
It sounds like some dodgy work has been done on this previously. My suggestion would be to fix it properly rather than have an ongoing risk of your bike tipping over, or trying to re-engineer it.

The threads in the crankcase can be repaired with helicoils. If they are done correctly they will be as strong as ever.

The angle of some of these stands can also be repaired - it was a common problem on many of the earlier Ducati superbikes. The stop permitted the stand to pivot too far forward, which worked its way worse in use.

So my suggestion would be to:
1. Helicoil the threads and replace those two mounting bolts.
2. Add a small amount of aluminium weld to the point on the stand where it hits against the stop in the down position. This can be ground back with a few times of fitting to establish the correct angle. You only need a small amount - perhaps about a millimetre.

The stand needs to go past perpendicular to be safe, but not as far as it went previously.

And the stands don't "bend", as stated above. They simply go too far forward, which then puts a high torsional load through the pivot. If you add the correct amount of weld, and have everything else there fitted safely, you will have a reliable sidestand.

I have had to fix a few with this issue, and they end up fine.

Not an expensive process if you can do all but the helicoils and the weld yourself.
 
#12 ·
The front hole which pulled out was already helicoil-ed. Its held the bike for over 60 hours on various different surfaces before this happened. The bracket snapped in the center and the torque on the front bolt ripped the helicoil in half & out of the motor with a piece of the shoulder. Had to cut the helicoil in order to separate the stand from the bike so that isnt what failed. I had just checked the kickstand to make sure it was secured properly not 40 miles before this happened. luckily its hasn't damaged the crankcase in its capacity as a crankcase it just isn't going to be reliable enough for holding the bike at this point in my opinion. I have a couple ideas im going to prototype this week that I'm pretty excited about as the forks are coming off to get rebuilt with new bushings, seals, springs & valving. All of this has just wonderful timing.
 
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