[rickybobby]

Hi i just want an honest answer and yeh i have read the stories about ceramic coating etc. Does it really make much difference? Honestly (i dont actually know).

1098 is beautiful and i want one and have one on order. BUT. I had 999 and eventually absolutely hated it cause of heat in traffic. I know i will get 20 responses saying its not a commuter bike. I know it not, But i do enjoy riding to work 1-2 days a week in traffic in Sydney Australias summers. So its hot weather.

I dont want to spend all that money and find its unbearable. Yeh i get out on roads occassionally but not too often as got 2 very young kids.

Appreciate your comments (especially regular commuter and those who also had 999).

I have had gsxr1000k5 ever since sold the 999 and heat wise not an issue. But would love to get a red beauty again.

 

[poyta]

I never really ridden a 999 before but I have ridden a 748 in city traffic in the aussie summer and it was pretty bad - I doubt that they would have fixed the problem with the 999 cause the 1098 is just as bad as the 748. Therefore all I can say is that if you're weren't able to stand the 999 the 1098 wont be much different.
I will tell you this - I only took me having to take my bike home from work one 35 degree day to make me realise I'll never do it again and I was at the point where I was thinking why the hell did I buy this bike? I wasn't even caught in bad traffiic ( Im from Adelaide after all so we dont get Sydney traffic ) but at every stop light the temp reached over 100 degrees and it felt like you were sitting in front of a heater. It really took all the fun out riding cause you were cursing every slow driver and every set of stop lights. I couldn't wait to get home and get off the bike. Yes it really is that bad - bad enough to make one want to re-consider the purchase if the majority of your riding is in town.
I have noticed a considerable drop in radiant heat after installing the Termi's - I've yet to ride with them in Summer so I wont know for sure if it will make it bearable. Ceramic coating might help but I find most of the heat radiates off the engine and actually comes out the side so I dont see how coating the exhaust will change anything.

 

[rickybobby]

thanks poyta. i really appreciate your response. still got a few months to decide but its a shame most riding for me is commuting.

cheers.

 

[ToTheEnd]

I must confess, all the superbikes I had from Ducati had this issue. I say issue and not problem because I feel the guys in Italy don't realize that some people like to drive the bike somewhere else that on a track at 100 MPH in average!

From my point of view, Japanese have done a much better job it this area as their bikes don't go over 110 degrees when you get stuck into traffic! Don't know if their fans a bigger, more powerful or if the radiators are larger... but it is a fact.

The only exception is when it rains... but you don't really go to work with the bike when it rains don't you?

It was an issue and it's still an issue with the 1098...

T

 

[rickybobby]

bummer. thanks. i know its not a commuter scooter. but that hurst to know i might have to stay with a jap bike (as good as they are. they arent a duc)

cheers.

 

[mrinflux]

Plowing with a racehorse

most riding for me is commuting.

RB,

If most of your riding is commuting, you're gonna hate the 1098. The 1098 is absolutely unbearable for commuting. Stop-and-go traffic makes the 1098 run hot. Very hot. You'll be stuck in town, your chestnuts roasting, hot and uncomfortable, and worried about if your bike is gonna stall.

Consider these factors:

- The riding position is not comfortable at speeds under 60MPH.
- The engine is large and generates lots of heat.
- The enging is encased in a fairing.
- The radiator is small
- The water pump moves a relatively small amount of water at low RPMS

All this adds up to an unpleasant experience in town. Don't buy a 1098 for commuting. You'll regret it. Would you buy a racehorse to plow a field?

Elton

 

[mrinflux]

product misuse

The guys in Italy don't realize that some people like to drive the bike somewhere else than on a track at 100 MPH!

TTE,

Ducati designed, built, and sells the 1098 as a (barely) street legal racing bike.

There will always be consumers who attempt to use a product in a way the manufacturer didn't intend. Those users are inevitably dissatisfied. But those users shouldn't be heard to complain the product didn't perform as promised.

I'm sure Ducati realizes some people will misuse the 1098. Ducati probably wonders, "Why would somebody buy a motorcycle designed for the track as a commuter bike?!!"

Elton

 

[AMG ETR]

Hi Everyone,
I am new to this forum, been lurking tho. I have been offered the first 08 at my local dealer and I am trying to figure out if I want the bike or not... I hear everyone talking about the heat and its concerning me... My last bike was a 2005 Yamaha R1 with full Termi exhaust on it. And while it got hot it was never UNBEARABLE and never ruined the riding experience. Has anyone ridden the R1 to compare heat? Both are twin undertail so I assume its similar, but just making sure as I would not want to go too much hotter than the R1 already was!
Thanks,
Evan

 

[NewDuc]

Sounds like you might want

an S4R or something? 1098 isn't going to be THAT much different when it comes to heat. Whenever I look at my buddies' 1098 temps they're usually cooler than mine by 10-20 degrees but by the sounds of your post that may not be enough?

But hell if you bite the bullet, buy the Termis and ceramic coat the entire system and buy all the pants with vented crotches you can get!

Hi i just want an honest answer and yeh i have read the stories about ceramic coating etc. Does it really make much difference? Honestly (i dont actually know).

1098 is beautiful and i want one and have one on order. BUT. I had 999 and eventually absolutely hated it cause of heat in traffic. I know i will get 20 responses saying its not a commuter bike. I know it not, But i do enjoy riding to work 1-2 days a week in traffic in Sydney Australias summers. So its hot weather.

I dont want to spend all that money and find its unbearable. Yeh i get out on roads occassionally but not too often as got 2 very young kids.

Appreciate your comments (especially regular commuter and those who also had 999).

I have had gsxr1000k5 ever since sold the 999 and heat wise not an issue. But would love to get a red beauty again.

 

[bwhip]

I've ridden my 1098S with full Termi system a couple of times in the past two weeks in a city driving situation, with temperatures near 100 degrees. It was exceptionally uncomfortable, to the point I thought the back of my thighs were getting completely roasted. I'm not a big fan of riding on the street anyway, but this was particularly unpleasant. Last night I began prepping the bike for its main purpose - track use and racing, which makes me very happy, as that's where the bike will be most in its natural element. I'll stick with my SXV550 motard for street use, thanks. Much more fun and comfortable.

 

[ToTheEnd]

mrinflux: didn't notice that R1 and other GSXR are commuting bikes...

You don't get the argument. Of course 1098 and alike are made mainly for track purpose. As some other bikes and even cars but they don't get as hot as those Ducatis.

I don't want to do some motocross with my "superbike" and then say "Mmmhh, those suspensions and tires don't fit well the mud...". Of course it is not intended for this.

However, as far as I'm concerned, not a lot of people live by a track (btw, we have none in Switzerland) or highways and not everyone wants to carry a bike in a truck in order to get out of town (or get back into).

We (and I include myself in this description) tend to excuse everything from Ducati because we love those bikes and bought one. Some people even say that it is what makes Ducati a Duk when some things are wrong.

To me, making a bike that can't stand in traffic for 10 minutes without getting to 110 degree is a default and not a wrong use of it.

T

 

[israeli 1098s]

a short & real answer-yesssssssssssssss.
it is a very very hot bike as standard.may be if I change the pipes it will get a bit better...

 

[Tricolore]

You have to consider, when comparing the heat generated from a Jap or any other IL4 against a V Twin, the relative postion of the cylinder heads to where you sit. The IL4 heads are much further forward, and with a Ducati especially you are virtually sitting on the rear cylinder head.

 

[Dan Burns]

does anyone know any way of reducing the temperature??? Ive read on this forum that some people have wrapped the pipes in CF is this true? Any picks? Also is there and difference in temp between stock and a full system? Ive not had to experience getting my arse hot on a duc yet and it don't sound too pleasant but im English so it might warm me up. Cheers

 

[MX Tuner]

Is it hot in traffic? Yes. Enough so that I wouldn't own one? Not at all. The 1098 does everything so well, it is a very minor point for me- nothing that I would consider not buying/owning one for.

The bike is amazing. It even makes me look good riding it, not so much in appearance but in speed.

 

[Kerry]

Is it hot in traffic? Yes. Enough so that I wouldn't own one? Not at all. The 1098 does everything so well, it is a very minor point for me- nothing that I would consider not buying/owning one for.

+1 !

 

[von1098]

+1 !

:yo: I let my chestnut just roast cook... See being that I'm a little darker than the crew. I don't mind a little Heat.

 

[RickL]

If you're tall that helps a great deal with the heat. I can splay my legs out and get some reprieve from the heat. I only really feel a lot of heat from the left side, the right side for me isn't that noticeable. I've never felt the heat through the seat, just on the inside of my thigh. It's not enough to make me want something else but like others have said, you'll be cursing drivers that make you miss stoplights.

I'm much more bothered by the heat from wearing a jacket than the bike itself.

 

[mrinflux]

fatal flaw

To me, making a bike that can't stand in traffic for 10 minutes without getting to 110 degree is a fault and not a wrong use of it.

T,

If that's how you feel you definately shouldn't own a 1098!

Elton

 

[poyta]

I found that even the jap bikes hit high temps - I know that when I rode an R6 in the city the temp hit over 100 all the time but it just didn't seem to radiate the heat as much as the 1098.