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So next weekend I am heading to Laguna Seca for the first time. Due to the sound limit, I picked up some stock mufflers for the bike. The Bike has a termi slip-on ECU and K&N style air filter. If I run the stock mufflers, will it run rich(er) or lean(er) than with the Termi's?

Also just picked up a commuter 2 days ago! 2012 1100 Evo! Pumped! . It feels like my freaking dirtbike compared to the 848.

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Also traveled to Italy for work a couple weeks ago, and got to go to the Factory in Borgo Panigale, Bologna. Super cool experience!



Anyways, engine tune advice is appreciated for next weekend!
 

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The stock mufflers have catalytic converters in them. It's gonna bog you down a bit...but I doubt it will hurt anything
 

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So next weekend I am heading to Laguna Seca for the first time. Due to the sound limit, I picked up some stock mufflers for the bike. The Bike has a termi slip-on ECU and K&N style air filter. If I run the stock mufflers, will it run rich(er) or lean(er) than with the Termi's?

Also just picked up a commuter 2 days ago! 2012 1100 Evo! Pumped! . It feels like my freaking dirtbike compared to the 848.

Chuckwalla shot!



Happy garage shot!



Also traveled to Italy for work a couple weeks ago, and got to go to the Factory in Borgo Panigale, Bologna. Super cool experience!



Anyways, engine tune advice is appreciated for next weekend!
I ran full termi and Dp ECU at Laguna Seca in 2010, at turn 5 and turn 6 all you need to do up shift then you would be fine what you have on your right now
 

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Why not just use the DB killers?
 

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I don't have any... I also have read about guys cracking their exhausts using DB killers with the termis. Maybe the stock cans actually flow better than the small orifice method of the DB killer...

I don't mind the bog, I'm just curious if it will run leaner or richer? I think it will run richer, as it will not be able to flow as much air. Obviously leaner would be a concern.

Thanks for the responses.
 

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Sound limit is 90db now for most track days at Laguna. If your lucky it might be a 92db day, but not many of those. You can get a free sound test in the morning. Just ask at the riders meeting. Most trackday providers will not let you use aftermarket mufflers without db killers installed at Laguna. Many people blow the limit because of intake noise, not exhaust noise.

BE CAREFUL IN THE MORNING SESSIONS. Track can be very greasy until it warms up and many people crash on their out laps there also. Give yourself an extra lap before you go full tilt boogie, just to be on the safe side.
 

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just short shift going up the hill. np.. If you forget and draw a meatball, they just tell you to " go work on your bike and when you come back out short shift going up the hill".
 

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Hmm so maybe I'll just bring the stock cans with me and swap them if I need to. The open termis are pretty freaking loud though.
 

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Well I guess I'm crossing that track of my list. What a bunch of bs! 90 db limit??? How do they test that? According to a measurement I took a while back (at 3 feet to the side of the exhaust), it was at about 90 db at idle!!

It's a freaking WSBK and MotoGP track, and those GP bikes are insanely loud, but they make track day riders put db killers or stock exhausts on bike just so the wildlife doesn't get mad?? Not like there's a whole lot around the track, is there??
 

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They limit the sound because there are a bunch of old farts that have moved in and live near the track and complain about the noise, even though they very well knew about it prior to having moved there. They are rich and are spending a lot of money to close the track down entirely. Right now, the truce is to keep the track, but limit the sound significantly, except on the few occasions when there is a big race of significance.

Either accept the noise limits and ride an amazing track, or dont come. But, please dont ruin it for the rest of us.

I have an 848 with Termi/ECU and just run my DB killers/inserts. I can hold my throttle wide open past the sound check and am fine.
 

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So the rich old farts want to shut down the track just so they can live there in peace and harmony?? Why did they move next to a race track in the first place then?? Some people are just freakin stupid! I hope Laguna never closes. That track has a lot of history in american motorsports, and it really is one of the legendary tracks we have here in the US. It's on my bucket list to go there, but this whole noise limitation thing gets on my nerves (not so much that it exists, but more because of the reason for it!)
 

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Rubbish, it happens all the time. Do a Google search for Luke AFB and noise complaints. The base has been there loooong before the rich prats showed up and started encroaching on it. But they complain anyways about the noise. Thankfully a judge with common sense ruled in favor of the base.

Idiots are everywhere. As much as I blame the ones who move next to loud venues such as tracks and airports, I blame the douchebags who built the fucking golf course community next to it in the first place!
 

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Rubbish, it happens all the time. Do a Google search for Luke AFB and noise complaints. The base has been there loooong before the rich prats showed up and started encroaching on it. But they complain anyways about the noise. Thankfully a judge with common sense ruled in favor of the base.

Idiots are everywhere. As much as I blame the ones who move next to loud venues such as tracks and airports, I blame the douchebags who built the fucking golf course community next to it in the first place!
Yeah I hear ya...it's just annoying that it even gets to that point and it's only because they're rich. If it was a community of trailer/mobile homes, nobody would give a shit and it wouldn't even get to court.

Some people clearly have more money than common sense...moving next to a loud private or public venue that has been there for many years and complaining that it's loud...just absurd. Might as well move to Somalia and complain to their "government" that the streets smell like shit...see how far that gets them! :stickpoke
 
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