moto.it said:The news of a new Panigale 1299R, accompanied by a panel with the photo of the bike with an engine capacity in evidence, was given during a convention dedicated to the American Ducati sales network. On this occasion it was awarded the dealership of Portland ( here you can see their Panigale from "off-road ") as the best dealer in the USA for the second consecutive year. And so the photo of the winners, with the image of the Panigale's shoulders, it's over at the moment on their fb page.
We can tell you that the note Panigale 1199 will remain on the list, while the new version 1299R will be presented in November at the Milan became the spearhead of the series. At EICMA, as we have already written, we will also see the new Multistrada and the fact that it got a new engine blown leads us to believe that it can also be fitted on the Multistrada 2015, of course with the necessary modifications of the case. The debut of the Scrambler is instead expected to Intermot in a couple of weeks.
The Panigale 1299R has LED headlights, aesthetics remodeled and new exhaust system. The engine of cubic capacity has grown to remedy a "shortage" of shooting at medium - the criticism had been made to the 1199 - and not just to increase the power which, remember, is currently of 195 hp at 10,750 rpm.
The increase in capacity will not, at least at the moment, considering that the effects in the Superbike technical regulations 2015 was clearly defined and techniques to give you more opportunities than in the past two-cylinder engines. So much so that the grille of the upcoming season will see a greater number of Ducati at the start. Two years ago, when the Panigale struggled a lot in SBK, more than one pointed out that the ratio of a cylinder with four-cylinder engines were unfavorable. Now it is not so but it is certain that in Bologna also worked in optical competitions for the foreseeable future. Soon we learn more and we will update you.
Ever the optimist.....Egads, really? I highly doubt Ducati is making a 1299cc motor purposely for consumers. It's very clear they're going to be pushing their weight around in WSBK once more and try to have the displacement increased. They discussed this two years ago, when the Panigale first entered WSTK, but we all thought it was a joke. Now, the bike appears to be a reality and will most likely be racing in 2016 when the rules are finalized.
When they fail to beat Aprilia and Kawasaki again, what's next? 1400cc's, 1500cc's? When will they realize, you can't make power without rev's and there is no replacement for valve area. This is why all the other marques have gone with triples or four bangers of one configuration or another.
Ducati spent millions to make an all-new racer. They knew there is no replacement for valve area and RPM's. They had the chance to build a 999cc V4 just like their MotoGP bike. The excuses they gave about expense, about keeping their heritage, its all bullshit. The Panigale has only two pieces of "heritage" the SSSA and Desmodromic 90 degree twin.Ever the optimist.....
BS you are pessimistic about all things DucatiDucati spent millions to make an all-new racer. They knew there is no replacement for valve area and RPM's. They had the chance to build a 999cc V4 just like their MotoGP bike. The excuses they gave about expense, about keeping their heritage, its all bullshit. The Panigale has only two pieces of "heritage" the SSSA and Desmodromic 90 degree twin.
So now they're looking back on their decision to go 1199cc twin (three years in and no professional championships) with an eye on continuing to go the same direction. A direction that clearly doesn't work, that clearly has limited their success in the past and will continue to do so no matter what displacement ADVANTAGE they have over their competitors.
Ducati will have their day on the top step again, its inevitable. As the new rules drive the few remaining factory teams away, its now a race to beat Kawasaki and Tom Sykes. We've gone full-circle, back to 2003/2004 where the grid was mostly Ducati's, with the rules favoring them the most.
So yes, thats why I'm pessimistic about the whole 1299cc thing. Might as well call World Superbikes the "all Ducati" championship as of 2016. Great for those who only see red, not so great for those who want competition amongst manufacturers and riders.
The Panigale's biggest issue is its greatest asset. They made a motor which can withstand the higher RPM's necessary to make a 1199cc twin produce some serious power. However, if they run at higher RPM's, they will loose the reliability which is critical in the current rule structure.If Ducati wants to push the Rules Barrier, they would fight to remove all restrictions on the bike, not go to a larger displacement.
Yeah, they saw how rubbish it was with the intake restriction, so they removed it. But they still have a weight penalty.Newsflash, Ducati has not had restrictors on the Panigale since mid season 2013. I don't know why people keep bringing it up.
But then what changed? When Checa was running the 1098R, they were made the tires last longer than anyone else on the grid. Tire wear was not an issue before....so what happened, if that's really what the problem is (which I'm not convinced of)?I believe the Ducati had the weight penalty removed this year as well, and it's on equal footing for next years rules also. Tye pretty much hit the nail on the head IMHO, a V-twin simply isn't the right platform for the rules package that existed previously. I think it will do a lot better under next years rules, but that remains to be seen. However, and this is just my opinion as well and not based on fact, I think the tire wear issues are going to persist regardless and hinder the bike in race circumstances. It's capable of throwing down fast laps in qualifying, but that doesn't help twenty laps in. The 4 cylinders are doing some amazing things with power delivery now, listening to Syke's bike transition from a twin, to triple, to 4 cylinders as it comes out of a corner is amazing to me.