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Not much discussion on here over the last few days.......

I have a question on suspension......as my bike is now getting on for nearly six years old although low milage......how is the suspension holding up.......I've done a number of track days (on other bikes).....some with help from suspension specialists......it has been advised from a man with a very big truck with 100 % Suspension written on the side.....said that re building / refurbishing front and re shock units are an absolute must to maintain punishment from riding on track and probably road.......

I realise he may be punting for business.......but loverly fresh rebuilt shock units must feel great......
 

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My rear shock was leaking when I bought the bike (second hand) with ~60 miles on it in early 2011. DNA had the shock sent to Ohlins in... I want to say North Carolina, for a rebuild. It's been fine ever since. Today I surpassed 13,700 miles. I'm not even thinking about getting it (or the forks) serviced.

That's ONE opinion for ya.
 

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The fluid in the shock and forks deteriorates. On my track bikes, I try and refresh the fluid once a year or so. I'll be sending out the D16RR shock and forks from my salvage bike to be refreshed. It has about 11k miles.
 

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Thats great.....thank you......decision made I'll do a refresh front and rear after next trip.......just peace of mind......I was also told that once refreshed by the appropriate people (Ohlins) both forks and rear shock would perform better than received from the dealer.....maybe not the case with a Desmosedici......with regard to the rear I prefer more movement......it helps me get on the gas harder.....for me the throttle feels more connected to the rear when its softer.......I know this has been discussed on here before.......I will dig out the older threads......there was also mention of different spring rates for the front folks........
 

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front forks spring and rear spring, are tooo heavy....... believe...

suspension meaning suspension working all the time..... you need to use all of the travel....

10.5 front and 80 rear... if you are no Rossi of your weight is not 110 kg.... i think i tooooo much
 

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Thanks Josema......
Having ridden the bike now for 3 days at Valencia this clearly needs doing, the springs in the front are way too stong for me, bike would'nt turn unless you were hard on the brakes into the corner which I did'nt fancy too much....!
 

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......just to continue......the bike felt like it wanted to be up right mid corner.......I felt I needed to keep pushing the inside bar to keep the bike on its side.........unlike my zx10....I just twist the bars and it turns and maintains the arc all the way to the exit of the corner with one steering input......I have also been advised that lowering the front end of the bike by 2 or 3mm may also help.....with the softer springs....thats my only gripe.....power deliver and stability of the bike at high speed is fantastic.....breaks are great.....a bit of fade mid session but that can be corrected with the adjuster.....I would be more confident with a better slipper clutch as the rear is still having a slight wiggle on aggressive downshifting........
 

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Definitely go for revised springs (front and back). this "I have also been advised that lowering the front end of the bike by 2 or 3mm may also help" I would say not to... Easier to raise the rear, I raised mine 5 mm with full spring refresh and (as mentioned elsewhere) found this £500 one of the best mods for the bike. With the rear higher and a more pliable front setup you'll find the bike drops in to corners and holds the line much easier...

Don’t forget, once you've refreshed all the suspension internals and had it setup - make a note of the base settings and get to work playing with it. So many people are afraid of changing their suspensions settings thinking it's some kind of black art. Once you get comfortable with what does what you'll find confidence and pace come much quicker than throwing horsepower at the bike...

Enjoy! :)
 

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the suspension must work allways....

you must see if you use all the travel suspension, front and rear..... but first make a mainteance of all... i do not know your weight.. but rear spring is too heavy.... and front.. seeing the geometry firts, maybe is too heavy too...

i will be on aragon motorland from 16 to 18 march with art-motor,......

if you ride in spain, please... we can ride together...
 

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Thats very generous Jose......thank you and I here what your saying.....I'm still processing and speaking with all I can to glean as much information on this as I can on this.....to get it right.....

I'm trying to resist changing the rear rim to a 17 as I've blown my budget to date.....where I am now is refurbishing the folks and rear shock with Ohlins.....at the same time with softer springs.....also dropping the front folks by 2 or 3mm.....which in my novice book of geometry should have a similar effect of fitting the 17" rear rim.....

Strangely enough a friend has just contacted me about Aragon with Speer Racing in May 8 - 10....I've never been.....but can't make it......neither unfortunately can I make it in March with yourself....but again a generous offer....and would be great to meet one day somewhere hot with the bikes..!
 

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reading previous posts again.....maybe raising the rear with adjustment from the rear shock may also help.......I'm resisting buying those 17" rims...!
 

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Hi,

'South of London'... We should meet up some time 👍

I'm riding my Desmo for the first time tomorrow, hopefully.
If I think I need to set mine up, I'll nip up to MCT at Stowmarket, they did a first class job on my 916.

.:: Online Home Of MCT Suspension ::.

It might pay for you to ring Darren at MCT and ask his advice. He's very helpful.



reading previous posts again.....maybe raising the rear with adjustment from the rear shock may also help.......I'm resisting buying those 17" rims...!
 

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Thanks Josema......
Having ridden the bike now for 3 days at Valencia this clearly needs doing, the springs in the front are way too stong for me, bike would'nt turn unless you were hard on the brakes into the corner which I did'nt fancy too much....!
It's just too high on the clamp, drop the nose a few mm and it'll bias the weight forward and plant it.

Springs on a big bike are often more about the braking and acceleration forces involved.
 
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