Yeah, the sucky part is that I was actually the ass-hat in this case. I requested running in the red group but they told me my lap times were not fast enough when I said I ran a 1:44 in my first session and can easily break a sub 1:40 (lap record by an AMA racer is 1:31 at that track by the way). Personally I disagreed with their call on that one and since they were adamant my lap times were "way off" red group, I felt I could push in yellow.This kind of worry s me a little. As I will be a novice rider in 2015. And tiring to go to as many track days as I can.
This is 1 of the reasons why I don't street race anymore. Too many people can't control or don't know what there are doing. When it comes down to damage to your ride or body. No one else is at fault but yourself.
that video shows intermediate riders. I wonder if the novice/beginners group is worst as far as unpredictable manoeuvres. Not staying on there line.,I am betting so.
If I go down that's 1 thing but I don't want some asshat ramming me from behind.(no porno reference please)
Because I took the wrong line.
O-yeah sucks that Pani bit it
I think you nailed it. The racing line at that point is more to the centre and at the speed of the lap below / before I am more than comfy to be on the racing line or even slightly to the left. Even at the speed I was at just prior to the crash, about 115kph, I would have been more than comfy to be off the racing line. I agree with everything you said about being frustrated and trying to do too much at one time.Ouch!
First off, glad you're here talking to us. That accident could have gone south real quick if the other riders had been any closer. It could have been a multi-bike accident or worse, they could have run ya over. I analyze videos like this all the time, I rather enjoy the detective work involved, so take what I'm going to say with a grain of salt. It's more for discussion sake ya know?
What I get from the video is that you were very frustrated about being caught in that horrible slow traffic earlier in the lap and when you had the chance to motor by those other guys, you pinned it and got past many of them. You wanted to keep that momentum and picked a good place to make more passes. It backfired because every single line was blocked by a slowpoke, you had absolutely nowhere to go! The guy you ran into scrubbed off WAY more speed then you did entering that section. If the other video material didn't exist, I'd absolutely place blame on him. However, the other video material clearly shows the proper line and how the line you guys were on was very much "out of the way". I don't think he expected anyone to follow him "off line".
So I guess the first big question is; why were either one of you guys near the left side of the track? It's overly apparent you guys were WAY OFF the "racing line" which was clearly somewhere on the center to RIGHT side of the track, lining up for the next left hand corner. The bloke in front of you was probably simply trying to get "off line" so ya'll could pass. I know the first braking marker was there, but it wasn't really the entrance to a corner so to speak, the corner itself was pretty far away.
In my opinion and personal experience, the key to surviving track days is to stay on the fast line and if that line is taken by a slower rider, and you can't pass, match their speed. Don't push the issue, trying to thread the needle or ASSUME someone won't do something stupid. Imagine all the people around you could stop at a moments notice. This is the trick which has allowed me to survive for the hundred or so track days on tarmac, close to a thousand events on dirt and years on the street. I know it doesn't sound like fun, but honestly if you wanna bring the bike home in one piece and have a great day, it's the key. Race practices are where you can really open it up and find out what your capable of doing. Racers have a different mentality and they tend to be a lot more aggressive on track, which leads to less poking around. You'll follow a faster racer through a section of the track, tagging on to them, rather then get cockblocked like in this case.
Anyway, thanks for sharing your crash with us. Sorry for the novel… but I thought it was worth putting my 2 cents in.