[jarelj]

So who's building a Panigale as a dedicated track beast?? What are you doing to it? Mine will be here this week and the trackification will begin immediately. I decided on a standard model without ABS as the starting point and will upgrade appropriately. Here's what I have sitting in a pile waiting to fall on the bike when it arrives:
Termi full system
Öhlins TTX MKII shock
Ducati Öhlins adjustable steering damper
DP racing seat
DP tall clear windscreen
DP carbon tank pad
DP Carbon/Kevlar clutch cover
DP Carbon generator cover
DP Carbon swingarm cover/slider
DP Adjustable racing rearsets
Stomp Grip tank side pads
R&G bar end sliders
R&G fork sliders
R&G tank sliders
R&G tail sliders
R&G radiator and oil cooler guards

Arriving in a week or two:
Catalyst race bodywork
Öhlins FGR174 TTX25 fork cartridges
Marchesini Forged Magnesium Wheels

Can't WAIT to flog this thing on the track! Our next track day is coming up July 14/15 so I have some time to get it finished. I logged some time on a bone stock Panigale S ABS last weekend at the track, and loved it! Rode back-to-back on a 1098 race bike and the Panigale and found that I could go slightly faster on the 1098 on race tires vs. the Panigale on street tires, but when I got off the 1098 I was sweating profusely, panting, knees hurt, and thinking "Damn that was fun, but a lot of work!', then when I got off the Panigale it was "Wow that was EASY!" It just turns so nice, holds a tight line effortlessly, and the brakes are unreal. This is going to be FUN! :smoking:

 

[wilkson]

I have started with a standard model with ABS .

DP race seat
DP case savers
DP C/F front gaurd
DP swingarm protector
AR race glass
AR rear sets
AR levers
AR gas cap
Ohlins 30mm cartdridge kit
Ohlins TX rear shock
Ohlins damper
Oz wheels Forged Magnesium
Termi full system .

 

[Woopy]

Sounds like fun - can't wait to see the build progress.

Interesting that you both have gone for the standard model over the electric suspension. Obvioulsy you can get more of a race setup with the aftermarket Ohlins?

Do you think the 1199 swingarm cover would fit the 1198 swingarm? I wrecked my last carbon cover and liked the idea of the plastic slider on the DP 1199 unit.

 

[Beer Baron]

the few people I know building race pani's are all going base model. there is just no sense in going for an S as all that extra money basically buys most of your race gear. and the factory 'leccy ohlins aren't really a track set-up. in fact a few guys who've now tried their bone stock pani's on the track tell me they are half considering sticking with the show forks for a bit as they seem pretty good. maybe do the ohlins cartridges later.

you can buy some race glass, rearsets, rear shock, steering damper, exhaust, do all the lock-wiring etc and a fwe carbon bits and still be cheaper than buying an S... don't get me wrong the S seems like good value if you want a road bike and do the odd fun track day but for serious track guys the S is a waste of coin.

 

[slickhillsy]

FIM Superstock Panigali

Went for a Panigale S specifically to be stripped and ran as a race bike. Did a few races this year in the Michelin Power cup on my RSV4 APRC and although it handles like a dream (seriously amazing chassis) the power deficit is very noticeable against the raft of BMW's and ZX10's out there. Only managed a 7th...

My bike is stripped and with my engineer having an FIM Superstock race loom and electronics package / ECU fitted. Does away with all the road parts, ditches the elec suspension and ABS and with the factory ECU maps give an immediate 10BHP boost to the lower to mid range (exactly what was missing in the jump from 1198). Gives a seriously good core base platform to build a stonking FIM spec bike ready for next season...

Will keep a log of progress :smoking:

 

[reticsunlimited]

I want to see pics of all your track beasts lol. I only have a gsxr 750 as a track bike so I'm jealous haha

 

[ChamMTB]

Went for a Panigale S specifically to be stripped and ran as a race bike. Did a few races this year in the Michelin Power cup on my RSV4 APRC and although it handles like a dream (seriously amazing chassis) the power deficit is very noticeable against the raft of BMW's and ZX10's out there. Only managed a 7th...

My bike is stripped and with my engineer having an FIM Superstock race loom and electronics package / ECU fitted. Does away with all the road parts, ditches the elec suspension and ABS and with the factory ECU maps give an immediate 10BHP boost to the lower to mid range (exactly what was missing in the jump from 1198). Gives a seriously good core base platform to build a stonking FIM spec bike ready for next season...




Will keep a log of progress :smoking:

Hey Slick - does that mean no more Desmo on track? Still running the RSV4? Interested in your thoughts. I am currently considering either converting my Desmo to track trim or finding a donor bike to do so. Or turning my older bike into a track bike and keeping the Panigale for the street.....

But no intention / time to race at my end. Keen to see your project as it develops!

 

[Beer Baron]

Went for a Panigale S specifically to be stripped and ran as a race bike. Did a few races this year in the Michelin Power cup on my RSV4 APRC and although it handles like a dream (seriously amazing chassis) the power deficit is very noticeable against the raft of BMW's and ZX10's out there. Only managed a 7th...

My bike is stripped and with my engineer having an FIM Superstock race loom and electronics package / ECU fitted. Does away with all the road parts, ditches the elec suspension and ABS and with the factory ECU maps give an immediate 10BHP boost to the lower to mid range (exactly what was missing in the jump from 1198). Gives a seriously good core base platform to build a stonking FIM spec bike ready for next season...

Will keep a log of progress :smoking:

out of interest why buy the S over the base model? sounds like you would have been better off with the base non-ABS model since you've now removed the electric suspension and the ABS.

sounds like it will make a great track bike though. just curious why the S?

 

[slickhillsy]

All that gets removed are the electric servos / motors to manage the suspension. S has Ohlins and the internals remain. ABS, I didnt have it fitted when I bought the bike. Result = better base to start from than non S without Ohlins. The S also has forged wheels where as the non has cast (forged are lighter).

 

[slickhillsy]

Hey Slick - does that mean no more Desmo on track? Still running the RSV4? Interested in your thoughts. I am currently considering either converting my Desmo to track trim or finding a donor bike to do so. Or turning my older bike into a track bike and keeping the Panigale for the street.....

But no intention / time to race at my end. Keen to see your project as it develops!

Hey Ian - how's it going mate, long time no speak...
Desmo still is WIP for me, mainly on track. Still love the bike but find it increasingly frustrating compared to the RSV4 (which handles like a house fly), the thing is just so stiff and I’ve played forever with the suspension. Decided to throw it in to an Ohlin’s specialist (FTR) to have all the internals changed and re-gassed to support my weight (and dare I say it ability as am not a 7 stone jockey sized alien ). Off to Le Mans for a two day session with it in August so will see what the results are then...

How's things with you mate - sounds like your bike project could be interesting...

Cheers. :smoking:

 

[ChamMTB]

Mark,

Thanks for the reply, and yes, all good with me thanks. Long time since I have heard from you on here, and lost track of where you were. John at JHP said you had been in touch, so I wondered if you were still alive and well!

I have only just started riding my Desmo on track, but agree with you that this bike is f-ing hard to setup. I used to ride my 848 on track, and I just swapped tyres and caned it - it was easy. The Desmo takes a huge amount of setup time, and it is responsive to micro changes in setup - you can go round in circles getting it to work. My first time on track was brilliant, but even the switch of tyres threw out the handling for the entire morning session whilst I got it calm again. But once calm, it was a dream to ride....

But then you are getting a lot more time on track than me sir, and I recall your times were none too shabby before - so keen to see how you get on with the Panigale. Mine is for street. And I was thinking Desmo for track - but am struggling with the noise levels on UK tracks.......

PM me your details and I will give you a buzz. Where are you based these days?
Best,
Ian

 

[jarelj]

Finally got started on the bike tonight. Here's the first pile of "stuff" waiting to fall on the bike:

Here's the first thing I bolted on, Ducati Performance fuel cap:

Here's what the tail looks like with the bodywork and seat stripped off, it's TINY!!:

Got all the bodywork off:

Bolted up the Ducati Performance rearsets:

Finally bolted up the Öhlins TTX MKII shock, and wrapped it up for the evening:

 

[jarelj]

First track day coming up a week from Sunday, lots of work to do before then! Race bodywork is on the way, I'll have to get that mounted up and probably just ride with it unpainted to start out with since there's no time to get paint done. We sell Armour Bodies, Catalyst Racing Composites, and SharkSkinz bodywork, but Catalyst was first to market with the Panigale bodywork so that's what I got. Also going to put Bridgestone slicks on it to do some testing with chassis setup. The stock Pirelli Supercorsa's are great tires, but we're the Bridgestone race tire distributor for the Midwest region so............

 

[plwtwo]

Id say the Base with ABS would be the way to go, with microtec or some other ECU to tune in some hp's. The BMW's ABS is badass on the track, you drive it inhard u pulled the lever hard and shoot out, no worrying with tire lockup!! However, I dont know if you can adjust the Ducs to make it race friendly!

 

[M1st1098]

looks like the rear shock is much easier to replace compare with 1x98. is it?

 

[jarelj]

looks like the rear shock is much easier to replace compare with 1x98. is it?

Yes, extremely easy, just put a jack under the engine to support the weight of the bike and the shock comes off with 2 bolts with nothing in the way. Took 5 minutes to swap it out.

 

[jarelj]

Little tip for anyone who is going to use tire warmers on a Panigale: The front speed sensor wire is routed INSIDE the front fender and secured with a series of clips inside the fender. You WILL LIKELY knock this wire loose from the clips if you try to squeeze a tire warmer up in there, then the wire will be rubbing aginst the tire and will be destroyed. I routed the wire on the outside of the fender and secured it with zip ties to the brake line so it will not interfere with the warmers.

 

[MonsterMan1036]

Can you do GP shift pattern with those rear sets?

 

[jarelj]

Can you do GP shift pattern with those rear sets?

Yes, but at this point in time they are not compatible with the DP reverse quick-shifter switch, so if you switch to GP you'll lose the quick-shifter. They're working on a revision for that.

 

[ChamMTB]

No rear sets have arrived here in the UK yet - bumped to august now apparently.....

bummer. Not helpful. The stock ones are useless......