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HERTZ BRITISH GRAND PRIX
MotoGP Free Practice Nr. 1 Classification 2014
Silverstone, Friday, August 29, 2014


Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev.
1 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 318.0 2'03.208
2 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Pramac Racing Ducati 318.7 2'03.869 0.661 / 0.661
3 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 316.6 2'04.052 0.844 / 0.183
4 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA GO&FUN Honda Gresini Honda 320.0 2'04.187 0.979 / 0.135
5 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA NGM Forward Racing Forward Yamaha 310.1 2'04.212 1.004 / 0.025
6 6 Stefan BRADL GER LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 318.8 2'04.232 1.024 / 0.020
7 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 313.6 2'04.240 1.032 / 0.008
8 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 315.4 2'04.281 1.073 / 0.041
9 68 Yonny HERNANDEZ COL Energy T.I. Pramac Racing Ducati 315.8 2'04.301 1.093 / 0.020
10 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 316.9 2'04.338 1.130 / 0.037
11 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 317.2 2'04.609 1.401 / 0.271
12 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 319.2 2'04.628 1.420 / 0.019
13 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR Ducati Team Ducati 319.4 2'05.130 1.922 / 0.502
14 45 Scott REDDING GBR GO&FUN Honda Gresini Honda 303.0 2'05.503 2.295 / 0.373
15 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Cardion AB Motoracing Honda 306.7 2'06.085 2.877 / 0.582
16 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA JPN Drive M7 Aspar Honda 309.4 2'06.250 3.042 / 0.165
17 15 Alex DE ANGELIS RSM NGM Forward Racing Forward Yamaha 308.6 2'06.333 3.125 / 0.083
18 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Octo IodaRacing Team ART 301.5 2'07.761 4.553 / 1.428
19 2 Leon CAMIER GBR Drive M7 Aspar Honda 301.7 2'07.774 4.566 / 0.013
20 8 Hector BARBERA SPA Avintia Racing Avintia 302.0 2'08.358 5.150 / 0.584
21 63 Mike DI MEGLIO FRA Avintia Racing Avintia 301.8 2'09.056 5.848 / 0.698
22 23 Broc PARKES AUS Paul Bird Motorsport PBM 297.4 2'10.042 6.834 / 0.986
70 Michael LAVERTY GBR Paul Bird Motorsport PBM 299.0 2'11.919 8.711 / 1.877





HERTZ BRITISH GRAND PRIX
MotoGP Free Practice Nr. 2 Classification 2014
Silverstone, Friday, August 29, 2014


Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev.
1 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 318.0 2'02.126
2 6 Stefan BRADL GER LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 319.1 2'02.635 0.509 / 0.509
3 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 318.3 2'03.011 0.885 / 0.376
4 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 317.9 2'03.070 0.944 / 0.059
5 68 Yonny HERNANDEZ COL Energy T.I. Pramac Racing Ducati 316.8 2'03.327 1.201 / 0.257
6 45 Scott REDDING GBR GO&FUN Honda Gresini Honda 308.6 2'03.333 1.207 / 0.006
7 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Pramac Racing Ducati 318.2 2'03.353 1.227 / 0.020
8 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA GO&FUN Honda Gresini Honda 319.0 2'03.391 1.265 / 0.038
9 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 319.8 2'03.410 1.284 / 0.019
10 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA NGM Forward Racing Forward Yamaha 311.3 2'03.468 1.342 / 0.058
11 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 315.6 2'03.500 1.374 / 0.032
12 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 321.5 2'03.542 1.416 / 0.042
13 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 314.9 2'03.952 1.826 / 0.410
14 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR Ducati Team Ducati 318.4 2'04.057 1.931 / 0.105
15 15 Alex DE ANGELIS RSM NGM Forward Racing Forward Yamaha 307.6 2'04.411 2.285 / 0.354
16 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA JPN Drive M7 Aspar Honda 307.9 2'04.762 2.636 / 0.351
17 2 Leon CAMIER GBR Drive M7 Aspar Honda 304.5 2'04.928 2.802 / 0.166
18 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Cardion AB Motoracing Honda 308.4 2'05.002 2.876 / 0.074
19 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Octo IodaRacing Team ART 297.6 2'05.827 3.701 / 0.825
20 70 Michael LAVERTY GBR Paul Bird Motorsport PBM 301.4 2'06.335 4.209 / 0.508
21 8 Hector BARBERA SPA Avintia Racing Avintia 304.0 2'06.369 4.243 / 0.034
22 23 Broc PARKES AUS Paul Bird Motorsport PBM 298.4 2'07.855 5.729 / 1.486
23 63 Mike DI MEGLIO FRA Avintia Racing Avintia 300.5 2'08.397 6.271 / 0.542
 

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Ya know, Pedrosa has no excuse… Marc, Bradl and Redding beat him, 1.2 seconds off the pace is crazy for being on the same bike as Marc.

Bridgestone are running the same A-symmetrical tires they ran earlier in the year. Yea, the same tire Jorge didn't like. Its interesting that Bradly Smith had less problems, but everyone else was suffering with the bumps and lack of edge grip. The Honda's were clearly much better in that realm. What's interesting is whether its chassis or suspension related. Interested to hear how things go tomorrow.
 

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Hey, it's quite in hear. WAKE-UP!!!!!!!!!

So, I'm drinking my coffee and looking at the QP's to see something strange. A trend many people having seen since the likes of the wonder kid from down under.

Dovi has obtained a second position in QP2. So you can say, "ya, ya, not really a big deal.", and I would kind of agree, EXCEPT one thing; he beat the circuit lap record from last year!

So let's talk about how the bike is starting to go in the right direction. I think Dovi is starting to jive with the bike(I won't forget Crazy Joe, he's doing very well too), and it's only a matter of time when Audi and Gigi put that bike on the top box. He is not only bettering last years number but closing the gap on the bikes this year. I'm excited!

Thoughts?

Records:

Fastest Lap: Lap: 8
Marc MARQUEZ 2'01.906 174.2 Km/h Circuit Record Lap: 2013
Dani PEDROSA 2'01.941 174.1 Km/h

Silverstone, Saturday, August 30, 2014
Pos. Num.Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev.
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93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 322.5 2'01.906
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4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 322.9 2'01.9400.034 / 0.034
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26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 323.4 2'02.116 0.210 / 0.176
 

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If everyone else had the supersoft option, Dovi's performance most likely wouldn't seem so outstanding. We all know Ducati can build a motor, they've been the fastest bike in a straight line for years. Qualifying doesn't mean much for them however, as the bike still eats up its rear tires during the race. So yes, one may say the bike is getting better. Personally, I see Dovi/Iannone getting better and the team using an alternative tire package in order to be even close to the front runners. All it takes is listening to Dovi complain about the package to understand how much they've NOT improved. Remember last year, they didn't have the supersoft and extra fuel options.

Anyway, too bad about Iannone's crash in Q2, it would have been nice to see him complete that lap.

MM is doing the business however and will most likely do the business in the race as well. His practice pace was very good, back to normal.
 

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Who wants to get in passing contest with purcell over Ducati Racing?? Not me!!!
 

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If everyone else had the supersoft option, Dovi's performance most likely wouldn't seem so outstanding. We all know Ducati can build a motor, they've been the fastest bike in a straight line for years. Qualifying doesn't mean much for them however, as the bike still eats up its rear tires during the race. So yes, one may say the bike is getting better. Personally, I see Dovi/Iannone getting better and the team using an alternative tire package in order to be even close to the front runners. All it takes is listening to Dovi complain about the package to understand how much they've NOT improved. Remember last year, they didn't have the supersoft and extra fuel options.

Anyway, too bad about Iannone's crash in Q2, it would have been nice to see him complete that lap.

MM is doing the business however and will most likely do the business in the race as well. His practice pace was very good, back to normal.
Well, for those of us that have the paid package?
Here.. Listen to Dovi as Tye suggests. Doesn't sound like a lot of complaining to myself.

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/latest+videos#Silverstone+2014+MotoGP+Q2+Interview+Andrea+Dovizioso
I am looking forward to seeing the '15 bike.. Aragon I hear?
Would be pretty funny to see Cal get that Honda and not be able to keep up with Dovi or "Joe".. Anyone know for sure if Ducati will be "open" or "Factory" next year?
 
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I can't give much credence to Crutchlow's whining. He simply can't adapt, and he's a bit of a bitch.
Absolutely...

He convinced Tech 3 and Yamaha to give him a full factory bike for 2013 and he had a few accidental podiums, yet still complained.

I like riders who complain if they're realists. Cal isn't a realist unfortunately, he had the best satellite package available and still failed to achieve the results he hoped for. So he bitched and moaned, which basically forced him out of the team. Not a smart move and as I said last year, moving to Ducati wasn't a smart move either. I think going to Honda is a HORRIBLE move because nobody at Honda is going to listen to him and he's going to wanna change everything.
 

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Here.. Listen to Dovi as Tye suggests. Doesn't sound like a lot of complaining to myself.
Yea, wait till after the race when he does another 5th place finish. He did confirm what I said though, he admits the biggest improvement is himself, same goes for Iannone. Both riders are working very hard to adapt their riding style for the Ducati and putting the bike up at the front of the pack for qualifying. No doubt, as a fan its great to see, but its smoke and mirrors. Dovi is fully capable of racing with the front runners for mostly all of the race, yet can't due to the tire degradation.

I've been told by a very reliable source the GP15 won't be completed until February 2015. The factory is under a high stress load right now because they can't do any complete testing unit the WHOLE bike is completed due to it being an entirely different design. They're testing concepts on the current bike, just to see if they're going in the right direction, but outside of that, nothing will be finalized until the GP15 comes out. So Aragon? No way unfortunately. We may see bits, but nothing related to the final GP15.

It will be interesting to see if Dorna/FIM allows Ducati to continue their "open" status for 2015. If the new bike works, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind, Dovi will score a few podiums and it only takes 3, to loose the privileges currently.
 

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Yea, wait till after the race when he does another 5th place finish. He did confirm what I said though, he admits the biggest improvement is himself, same goes for Iannone. Both riders are working very hard to adapt their riding style for the Ducati and putting the bike up at the front of the pack for qualifying. No doubt, as a fan its great to see, but its smoke and mirrors. Dovi is fully capable of racing with the front runners for mostly all of the race, yet can't due to the tire degradation.

I've been told by a very reliable source the GP15 won't be completed until February 2015. The factory is under a high stress load right now because they can't do any complete testing unit the WHOLE bike is completed due to it being an entirely different design. They're testing concepts on the current bike, just to see if they're going in the right direction, but outside of that, nothing will be finalized until the GP15 comes out. So Aragon? No way unfortunately. We may see bits, but nothing related to the final GP15.

It will be interesting to see if Dorna/FIM allows Ducati to continue their "open" status for 2015. If the new bike works, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind, Dovi will score a few podiums and it only takes 3, to loose the privileges currently.

Anyone can be John Edward in "crossing over" by saying he will do a fifth place. I don't think any other bike/rider combo can do anything better than fifth consistently. That said, though you have good points about certain changes with the bike in the "open" class, I have no doubt that when a package gets better, it's a combination of both bike and rider. Dovi and Iannone are showing the benefits as CC is still lingering and collecting a check.

That said, when discussing just the bike, we all know the motor is probably one of, if not THE best motor on the grid. We also know the chassis and electronics are a few steps behind, this is not top secret intel. What we look at to determine whether the bike is getting better is overall times and best lap times(also important is when that best time happened). We know this year is running a softer tire and more fuel, however ask yourself, how much time is that worth?

Last year is difficult to make a comparison, as Dovi went out with 2 laps left, but Hayden finished the race with a 41.25.5, while this year Dovi finished with a 41.01.0. I don't think tires and fuel alone can make this large of a difference. Some definitely, however the top speeds were not off much at all, giving the extra fuel did not make an impact at all, for nothing giving a little lenience on throttle input.

So although you make some valid points Tye, let's look at the bigger picture; it's the bike that makes the rider more confident to make the changes to adapt and get faster, so the large portion of the bettering from last year to this year clearly is in the bike.

And yes you are correct, Dovi IS clearly capable of riding with the aliens, and with an even better bike, he will be on the box. Put any of the top 4 aliens on the Duc and you would see carnage. We saw that with Vale. Since I'm not John Edwards, I'll wait and see what Dorna does for next year. That said, I read from Gigi that the bike will be delayed, yet ready 100% in February.(We go way back :D) :stickpoke
 

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How come it's always a run away with Marquez and / or Lorenzo ?
Third and forth are fine but 6+ seconds behind is unacceptable.
Not just the Ducati , but is Rossi and the others just that slow ?
 

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What does 41.25.5 and 41.01.0 mean? Race length? :shrug:

Dovi did finish with a 9 second gap to the front, thats the best finish he's had on the Ducati in the dry, period. Absolutely outstanding stuff in my book AND didn't resort to using a special tire. He fought with Rossi and Pedrosa and stayed on their asses until the end which was very good. Today is the first day I actually saw improvement in a RACE. Pre-race, Dovi explained it very well, stating its his fitness that's made the difference. He can manhandle the bike better, which is what's allowing him to last for the race distance better. If your smooth and don't make mistakes, the tire doesn't get chewed up as much. Its the mistakes due to fitness that were really hindering him in the past it seems.

I'll say this much, Lorenzo is totally sandbagging. I really think he's going slow purposely to psych out his competitors. Marc was surprised by Lorenzo's pace, he hadn't seen it on paper all weekend. So thats an interesting role reversal. Good stuff however, predictable finish, but it was very close.

Rossi and Pedrosa suffered from tire issues trying to get past one another and by the time they did, it was too late. The three of them held each other back by passing and thats why the gap was so large.
 

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One thing I noticed was how they were running 2.02's early in the race, then it dropped off a cliff to 2.02.7-9's from about the 5th lap until the last couple of laps. That said, I agree, JLo held his Ace card.

It was clearly a game of chess between the two, but me thinks Marky Mark's Queen is a little stronger than JLo's right now.
 

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Yea, wait till after the race when he does another 5th place finish. He did confirm what I said though, he admits the biggest improvement is himself, same goes for Iannone. Both riders are working very hard to adapt their riding style for the Ducati and putting the bike up at the front of the pack for qualifying. No doubt, as a fan its great to see, but its smoke and mirrors. Dovi is fully capable of racing with the front runners for mostly all of the race, yet can't due to the tire degradation.

It will be interesting to see if Dorna/FIM allows Ducati to continue their "open" status for 2015.
I think that the more time that goes by? The less that the smoke and mirrors are being needed.
I think that I translated Dovi's words a little differently..
Yes his fitness is improving, but I didn't take his words as it just being about him himself. Sounded more like Dovi mentioned that the little changes with the bike are enabling him to be more confident.. And to ride harder to get more out of the bike and himself.

That is a HUGE statement in my eyes..
For a very long time now, I have always read.. And thought.. That Ducati was a little too stubborn with not applying changes to their bike to meet the rider half way. Even going back to when stoner was on the bike, at times, it seemed that his "opinion" was not regarded as much as it could have been? At least to me anyhow...

Listening to Dovi, and hearing him state that the changes to the bike are positive, and allowing him to perform better brings a smile to my face. We all know that there is a big game of "catch up" being played by the Ducati team.

But going open seems to have been a really smart choice..
Allowing changes to be done throughout the season, testing as you will, looks to be paying off big time.

Let us also remember how the season started..
An open bike on pole..
Aleix being hailed for his efforts..
People complaining here that the Ducati was always 30 seconds behind the leader, even with the softer tires and such..

Things are turning around.. And today was exciting to watch. Seeing Dovi dice it up with the winner of the last race up to the last lap was great to see..
Wasn't too long ago that Ducati was handed their ass from the likes of LCR, Gresini, and tech3.. Let alone the Factory boys.
Dovi and his bike seem to be gelling pretty well now, and it is good fun to watch.
Ducati is no longer finishing 30 seconds behind the winner.
There are a lot of positives.. Italy should be exciting.

I am still curious to see what comes in the future, but what a difference a year makes?
 

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Yep, Freight, large steps forward for Ducati Racing. Dovi held fourth, ahead of Pedrosa, for about 10 laps, ended up fifth... lets see, behind Marquez, (isn't everyone?) on a Honda, then Lorenzo, (last years WC, on a Yamaha, Rossi (revitalized WC) on a Yamaha, then finally Pedrosa, (oh shit, I can't be beaten by a Ducati in the Dry!!), on a Honda,.... then Ducati, front row start, etc.etc. life is good, Freight, and yes..... it's getting better and better!!! ( not to mention the Ducatis had the fastest trap speeds!!!).... Just sayin.
 
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Didn't any of you guys listen to the booth crew before the race? They talked quite a bit about how much physical effort was required to ride the Ducati, compared to the other bikes on the grid. They made a big deal of the fact that a rider must be able to ride relaxed in order to go fast; and that the Ducati doesn't (or hasn't) allowed that, as it requires tremendous physical effort to maneuver. And that that fact has worn the riders out well before the end of the race. AND that a combination of small changes to the bike and improved fitness, strength, and endurance were all factors in the bike's improvements.

All the same, it's going to be interesting to see what they have up their sleeve for '15.
 

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Hell, Neil, you ought to try racing a 1098R!!! Talk about a workout!!! BTW.. I usually do not listen to the announcers on any race broadcasts.... I hit the mute button. ( I mean really, how about listening to Scott Russell for an hour???) I think I can fill in the blanks watching the video, so I usually put on some good music, Like Lowell George, Taj Mahal, Bonnie Raitt, etc. do the commentary.
 
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Oh, and 2015 will be another good year,.... but look for 2016 to be the next Big year for Ducati,..
and Michelin Tires, of corse.... just sayin...
 

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Ducati qualifies tenths behind the leaders but finishes many seconds behind...? I don't get it.
I hope it's just a tire thing.
 

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I daresay it's many things Neo, but the main thing is that Ducati are heading in a good direction, and the gap is down to seconds, rather than laps.
We can all take heart in this.
Of course, the Open classification advantages make them look better than they actually are at the moment, but pace and confidence is building.
And hopefully they can continue to make progress while the Open classification gives them more freedom than the other factory teams to experiment with changes, and combinations of changes.
With that chart-topping top speed, who knows where they could end up?
As stated above, after another year of improvements (and the effects of the rule changes coming through) Ducati may yet end up racing on an equal footing again.
2016 could see a return to equality for Ducati. Depending on who they can get to ride for them..
Keep the faith..

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