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When I first got my Tri it stalled at stops. Been fixed and hasn't stalled since. However I've read enough posts about stalling at speed, right out of the blue, and for no reason leading to no fun. I am acutely aware of this phenomenon and not totally comfortable when I ride. Further God hates me and if it's going to happen I'll be the one. So here's the question. Would installing a slipper prevent rear wheel lockup should it stall and give this poor old man the time to react and get the clutch in before I end up eating the street? They're alot of money but then what's peace of mind worth? Lay it on me boys.

If I do get one I believe I'll go with the EVR unit.
 

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Wise choice with the EVR...

You'll still decel at a pretty good clip, but the rear wheel won't lock...it will just slightly "chirp" a bit. Should be totally controllable as far as rider inputs...traffic behind you will be another story. :stopp:

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Quality, form, fit, function.... with all due respect...Will YOU GIVE ME A BREAK??? Come on, are we teaching people to try racing on the streets??? Otherwise give me a more rational explanation.
At least just tell me "show off"...I could accept that better than "quality", "Form", "fit" "etc".
 

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...here we go again...

alfredob said:
Quality, form, fit, function.... with all due respect...Will YOU GIVE ME A BREAK??? Come on, are we teaching people to try racing on the streets??? Otherwise give me a more rational explanation.
At least just tell me "show off"...I could accept that better than "quality", "Form", "fit" "etc".
This thread was not establisted to teach you how to ride.

Slipper clutches are not only for the track. Depending on your motorcycle education / experience, it becomes a useful tool on the street as well. Same theory with GP shifting, it works extremely well on the street also.

Don't agree? Don't put one on your street bikes.

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Hey Alfredob,

I suggest you read my original post. See if you can figure out what the reasoning is. Shouldn't be too difficult as it's plain enough, but if you still don't get it let me know, and I'll try to explain it to you in a simpler fashion.

P.S. You got a dog or cat? If so what bikes do they ride?
 

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alfredob said:
Why would someone install a slipper clutch to ride the streets? I truly would like to learn about this...

I don't believe slippers are just for racing.

I didn't really understand until the one on my Hayabusa was locked up at the shop to handle the extra HP from my turbo setup.

I can't see a silpper protecting you from a full stall at very low speeds but if you're going faster it might give you that extra fraction to grab the clutch.

I found the slipper allowed me to grab a better gear for a deep corner and get the clutch out earlier without rear chatter. I dont race on the road but when you're used to it you will miss it and get the occasional scary moment when its gone.

Just my 2 cents worth.
 

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alfredob said:
Quality, form, fit, function.... with all due respect...Will YOU GIVE ME A BREAK??? Come on, are we teaching people to try racing on the streets??? Otherwise give me a more rational explanation.
At least just tell me "show off"...I could accept that better than "quality", "Form", "fit" "etc".

No. What Cloudrider really meant to say is that he's and avid Track enthusiast. He visits the track as many times as he can, as a matter of fact he practically lives there. But his track bike is also his street bike! So, once its installed it will serve both track and street.

He's only asking what happens with a slipper in the event of a stall as all? ;) ;)

I'd like to know how it would work too. It's a good question. :yo:
 

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Ok, I use to ride the streets and in plain honesty the slipper cluch on the streets is a true waste of money; that is my opinion anyway. To use the slipper clutch for both track and street also makes sense but nothing short of that. I will not start again talking to people who does not want to listen (they are always the same anyway...)and...once again...i will invoke the phrases of my Buddy Dante Alighieri.
Keep the slipper clutch on the street and go get killed if that is what you want, I don't give a shit!
 

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When I first got my Tri it stalled at stops. Been fixed and hasn't stalled since. However I've read enough posts about stalling at speed, right out of the blue, and for no reason leading to no fun. I am acutely aware of this phenomenon and not totally comfortable when I ride. Further God hates me and if it's going to happen I'll be the one. So here's the question. Would installing a slipper prevent rear wheel lockup should it stall and give this poor old man the time to react and get the clutch in before I end up eating the street? They're alot of money but then what's peace of mind worth? Lay it on me boys.

If I do get one I believe I'll go with the EVR unit.
Back to the original question here.

If you are moving at any significant speed it is unlikely to lock the rear wheel. To get a feel for it, just ride down an empty road and flip the kill switch.

As for slipper clutches, I have tried a few. They wear out faster and give a very different feel, which you may not like.
 

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Rosco said:
I don't believe slippers are just for racing.

I didn't really understand until the one on my Hayabusa was locked up at the shop to handle the extra HP from my turbo setup.

I can't see a silpper protecting you from a full stall at very low speeds but if you're going faster it might give you that extra fraction to grab the clutch.

I found the slipper allowed me to grab a better gear for a deep corner and get the clutch out earlier without rear chatter. I dont race on the road but when you're used to it you will miss it and get the occasional scary moment when its gone.

Just my 2 cents worth.
HORNETDRIVER said:
This thread was not establisted to teach you how to ride.

Slipper clutches are not only for the track. Depending on your motorcycle education / experience, it becomes a useful tool on the street as well. Same theory with GP shifting, it works extremely well on the street also.

Don't agree? Don't put one on your street bikes.

HORNETDRIVER

HELLO
the main porpouse of slipper clutches is to avoid rear wheel chatter so you can trail brake while still having control of the bike.
Have you ever had your bike chattering on the street?
If yes, you are lucky to still have that bike, because once the tire starts bouncing left and right, the only one thing that you are able to do is going straight, and if you are lucky stop before hitting something.
With the slipper clutch, you can't feel the engine brake effect at low RPM's, which is something that you normally use a little bit on the street; with the slipper clutch you have to brake extremely hard, downshift at mid-high RPM's and let the clutch do it's job: the rear tire will move sideways as it was slipping on ice, so no bouncing, you can easily control the bike sideways and enter the corner at a faster speed... if you can really feel these advantages of the slipper clutch while riding on the street, you must have somebody that really likes you up there.
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Dear oh dear!

Move over Elton - I think we have found your successor.:stickpoke

OK, so maybe the slipper is more suited to the track, but Cloudrider, if it raises your confidence & trust back to where it keeps you riding your 1098, I'm sure it would help. So if you can afford one - go for it. It sounds as though it may make some track purists a little jealous by having their 'special' bits out with the commoners on the street.

I personally know very little about them, but aren't they adjustable for various track(road) conditions which would make them usable on both the track and mixing it with the masses on the streets?
The new generation EVR look/sound yumalicious.
 

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GME said:
If you go down the road downshift without a slipperclutch while running over fredos bullshit, the chance ending up in the bushes is high. With a slipperclutch no problem.
Do you mind if I ask you an explanation to the words "fredos bullshit"? Thanks
 

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Allow me to clarify. There have been some posts concerning the engine stalling for no reason while underway. One guy was on an off ramp (I assume at some speed and banked in accordingly) and his engine stalled. He immediately lowsided. I wish to avoid that and I also wish to not have it creeping through my mind as I have already lowsided this poor thing into the gravel and a guard rail in a corner. My fault, by the way. Not cheap, believe me. So never mind track vs street and all that. All I wish to determine is if I install a slipper and the engine should stall would it prevent lockup and wheel chatter long enough for me to react and get the clutch in? It is my belief that it all happens so fast that one has VERY little time to reccognise the situation and react accordingly.

It appears that the EVR slipper can be adjusted to vary the tension on the plates during deceleration. More tension= less slip and more engine braking and vice versa. I'm sure, from what I've read, that it will require some learning and getting used to. And it's an awful lot of money for something which may or may not happen. However, assuming my thinking is correct, one time will pay for it and also ease my mind. Funny thing about getting old. You tend to think about this sort of stuff alot more than when you're young and indestructable. And PLEASE no shots about being old. Or if you're going to take 'em make 'em good.
 
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