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Hello all! My name is Josh, new to the forum!!

Im currently in the process of buying an 848 Evo, two models have popped up at a rather good price range (less than 15k)

Both 2012's etc, but I'm leaning more towards one as it literally has 1500km and no mods besides Termi exhaust vs 11,000km with a lot of mods (some illegal e.g. tail lights and HID upgrade)

BUT here is the problem - Zero service manual/record. It is from a dealer, but they said they can't get it. Ive done a thorough inspection, and they said they haven't serviced it personally as it was so new. But I'm unsure if the 1500km was done, and now that 2 years is up, Im almost certain the belts haven't been done.

Do you think i could potentially run into some issues down the track. Apart from the servicing it looks, feels and rides flawlessly, the oil is fresh, tyres are near new, brake pads good, only one small scratch on the mirror and one small scratch in the tank which will most likely buff away, can't be faulted.

The benefit at least is that its a dealer so I'm guaranteed my 5000km, 3 month warranty in some respect for mech failure if not at fault. Is it possible for me to buy a genuine logbook from a ducati dealer and start from scratch on the servicing?

Cheers for the help.
 

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For the 1500km check (which I believe is the same as the 600mile one back in the states) is basically an oil change and generally just going over the bike. The first valve check/belt change comes in at 7,500miles (approx. 15,000km's). I'd go for the lower mile one and haggle in a belt inspection in the price as they're 2 years old and that's generally when they should be changed if the mileage isn't met. That's just my 2 cents, either way, you can't go wrong with buying an 848, though a color wasn't mentioned and we all know the arctic white/red is the sexiest.
 
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Ok, The dealer is fairly firm, I managed to haggle $500 so far, but perhaps I could haggle a belt inspection... Either way it might just be worthwhile me doing the 2 year service as soon as I get it.

Also, is it possible to get a new logbook for service records from ducati?

Unfortunately not the white - I WISH :( but the cheapest white is 2k more and 4 years older where I live. Im quite happy with the red for that price difference :)
 

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Just a small correction on the kms vs. miles thing. (We know the conversion off by heart in Australia, as we underwent the changeover in the '70s, so unless your bike was new back then, we had to do a lot of converting)!

The first service should have been done at 1,000 kms (about 600 mi) as mentioned. No guarantee the oil was changed then, as it would still look clean after that mileage. But if the 'SERV' logo isn't showing, then a service facility has seen the bike. So you can probably be fairly sure it was done.

The next service is due at 12,000 kms (about 7,500 mi) and is an elaborate service - belts and valve adjustment as well as fluids etc. (The SERV logo will appear again).

As to the belts being two years old - not a problem. They are good for 4 + years. I would however get them inspected and adjusted in the next few thousand. Don't leave it until 12,000.

To be safe, get the oil changed also before the 12,000, both for the fact of not knowing how long ago the first service was performed, and it should be changed at less than 12,000 kms anyway. Say 6,000 max. Many do it at 4,000.

The long service interval is more to do with competing with other brands on servicing than the best interests of your engine.

Enjoy your Evo. They are a great machine. And welcome to the forum.
 

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Just a small correction on the kms vs. miles thing. (We know the conversion off by heart in Australia, as we underwent the changeover in the '70s, so unless your bike was new back then, we had to do a lot of converting)!

The first service should have been done at 1,000 kms (about 600 mi) as mentioned. No guarantee the oil was changed then, as it would still look clean after that mileage. But if the 'SERV' logo isn't showing, then a service facility has seen the bike. So you can probably be fairly sure it was done.

The next service is due at 12,000 kms (about 7,500 mi) and is an elaborate service - belts and valve adjustment as well as fluids etc. (The SERV logo will appear again).

As to the belts being two years old - not a problem. They are good for 4 + years. I would however get them inspected and adjusted in the next few thousand. Don't leave it until 12,000.

To be safe, get the oil changed also before the 12,000, both for the fact of not knowing how long ago the first service was performed, and it should be changed at less than 12,000 kms anyway. Say 6,000 max. Many do it at 4,000.

The long service interval is more to do with competing with other brands on servicing than the best interests of your engine.

Enjoy your Evo. They are a great machine. And welcome to the forum.
Thanks!

didn't recall seeing the SERV error, so I guess I can assume that was done.... UNLESS the dealer I am buying it off cleared the code themselves (though they are not a ducati dealer, rather, suzuki so Im not sure if they would have the device to do that any how). I'll definitely get the oil filter, oil and other fluids serviced, and belts inspected. But I can only assume ill end up taking it to someone who says the belts need replacing, when I'm sure the bike has (well to my overview anyways) had a relatively easy life. FIFO worker sold it direct to the dealer no trade or anything as he was moving across Aus.
 

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Welcome aboard post some pics when you bring her home!
 

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You might be able to get the serial number and e-mail Ducati N. America to see if their dealer network can tell you anything about it.
 

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Get the VIN and call any Ducati dealer and they can check for you. I wouldn't buy the bike if it hasn't had it's services done or no service records. At a bare minimum I would ask for a quote to get the services done (from a Ducati dealer) and tell the dealer you are buying from to bring the price down to cover the service costs. If he won't do it look for another bike with service history.
 

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Hey guys,

Got the vin number, and the dealer and me did a bit of work, (they are being very helpful though) We managed to find that it was originally sold through Fraser's Ducati in Perth, who also mentioned the bike was with them in May 2014 to fit a new battery and also a few months earlier to fit exhaust, heat wrap and ceramic coating.

We also found that the first service was completed on 14 June 2014, but it has not had the 2 year belt service. We also got two quotes (one $550 and the other $500) for minor service plus belt change as they all believe (Apart from Fraser's who recommended the full 2 year service) that the valves and other major things with the 2 year etc will not need adjusting/servicing.

So thats good. I guess now id just like to get a new logbook from Ducati, get it stamped from Wayne Patterson and then continue to fill it so that the next owner won't have as many worries, the only question is, how can I get a new logbook for a bike that isn't made any more?
 

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11,000K is nothing for these bikes. I wouldn't be too concerned about the 2yr belt change. The 2yr is an old recommendation based on the old belt materials that were used. The new kevlar aramid belts are not succeptible to the problems regular weave rubber belts were. It is coming up on a valve check at 12,500K so belts can be looked at then.

To be frank, if you're going to check the valves at 12,500, the belts are only $100/pr and another .5hrs to replace and adjust while they are in there checking valves anyways so do it all. Start your records from there and it'll be smiles a mile for you.
 

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Well, in a change of luck, a 2013 848 eve just popped up for sale locally, 1200km, all services up to date, a few goodies including bar ends, termi's, a rear stand, genuine rear seat cowl, tinted screen, all for only $500 more.... plus the rego is 6 months longer. Id say thats a win. Going to look at it tomorrow with cash in hand.... might have to bring someone to drive my car home hah :)
 

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Unfortunately not, every owner knows that white is the best so nobody sells them.... :p

8 848 evos for sale, 1 black, 1 white, 6 red in my area.
 

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Yeah I hear ya!! The guys go out and get the red then find out later that the ladies prefer the pearl and they try to unload them for a white one. It's a sad chain of events really!!
 

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the ladies prefer the pearl
OK...so, flame retardant suit on and ready to go, but...

When I was looking to get mine, the dealer had a white 848 on hand. My wife told me that I could NOT have the white one. When I asked her why, she said "because you don't have a vagina".

Now, I was looking for red or black & gray model anyway, but I have to say, that was funny shit...the salesman about fell out of his seat.

I personally don't hold with her point of view on that, just having a Ducati ensures that your man card is safe, but there is a quick glimpse into the female brain...
 

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OK...so, flame retardant suit on and ready to go, but...

When I was looking to get mine, the dealer had a white 848 on hand. My wife told me that I could NOT have the white one. When I asked her why, she said "because you don't have a vagina".

Now, I was looking for red or black & gray model anyway, but I have to say, that was funny shit...the salesman about fell out of his seat.

I personally don't hold with her point of view on that, just having a Ducati ensures that your man card is safe, but there is a quick glimpse into the female brain...
Wife and I were walking into the office to sign on a stealth, when she said what about the white..? I took a look and that was it!
 

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OK...so, flame retardant suit on and ready to go, but...

When I was looking to get mine, the dealer had a white 848 on hand. My wife told me that I could NOT have the white one. When I asked her why, she said "because you don't have a vagina".

Now, I was looking for red or black & gray model anyway, but I have to say, that was funny shit...the salesman about fell out of his seat.

I personally don't hold with her point of view on that, just having a Ducati ensures that your man card is safe, but there is a quick glimpse into the female brain...
hahahahaha that's actually REALLY funny.

True story: My wife's car broke down at her job a few months back so I went and picked her up from work and dropped her off at home and was going to head back to her job on the bike to wait for the tow truck driver and she says "you're not going back over there on your bike!" I said "why not?" and her response was "that thing attracts too many women, and I don't want those sluts over there looking at you!!"

lol

I obviously have the fastest color
 

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Unfortunately not, every owner knows that white is the best so nobody sells them.... :p

8 848 evos for sale, 1 black, 1 white, 6 red in my area.
ya know, there's a lot of aftermarket pearl white fairings out there :popcorn:

Just make sure you get a bike with the red trelis frame and be on the lookout for the tank.... or you could always just paint them.
 

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OK...so, flame retardant suit on and ready to go, but...

When I was looking to get mine, the dealer had a white 848 on hand. My wife told me that I could NOT have the white one. When I asked her why, she said "because you don't have a vagina".

Now, I was looking for red or black & gray model anyway, but I have to say, that was funny shit...the salesman about fell out of his seat.

I personally don't hold with her point of view on that, just having a Ducati ensures that your man card is safe, but there is a quick glimpse into the female brain...
Hahahahaha love it!! My wife's thinking was that men buy Ferarri's cause they are compensating and when she saw the red, she instantly thought Ferarri. The white it was. I get a free man card with every rifle or hand gun I purchase and for every 2 boxes of 500rds of 5.56 purchased, I get a free man card also so I have a plethora of them now.
 
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