[rubbish]

I'm pissed at whoever decided to go with the cheapest softest stainless bolts ever for the clutch spring retainers. As I was checking the 4 bolts to make sure they're tight (I did catch one at a track day that was way loose, and the retainer was sticking farther out than the rest), I notice one was just a bit loose. I start tightening it, and POP! Off with the head!

Cheap part, easy to find replacement...but how the hell do I get the threaded part out of there now?? I believe that's either a 3 or 4 mm bolt. Is the only way to drill a tiny hole in it and use a left-handed tap to put some threads in it and unscrew it out? Or is there a better way?

Smallest tap I have is an M3, but it's right-handed anyway, so it wouldn't do me much good. I have some easy-outs but I've never had much luck with them, plus even the smallest one might not be small enough.

 

[W848Evo]

damn this happened to me...both starter bolts heads snapped on my truck inside the block..

anyway yes, I drilled into the bolt and used a bolt extractor, I found the cone shaped bits with the reverse thread worked best. Also I recommend using a bolt extractor that can be used with a ratchet rather than a drill..the drill just kept stripping the hole..much better feel using the extractor by hand

good luck

 

[rubbish]

damn this happened to me...both starter bolts heads snapped on my truck inside the block..

anyway yes, I drilled into the bolt and used a bolt extractor, I found the cone shaped bits with the reverse thread worked best. Also I recommend using a bolt extractor that can be used with a ratchet rather than a drill..the drill just kept stripping the hole..much better feel using the extractor by hand

good luck

So not the spiral ones? This is pretty much what I have.

Spiral Extractor & Drill Bit - 537 Series - Combo Packs - Tools - IRWIN TOOLS

 

[W848Evo]

yes those are the ones I was referring to...3 or 4mm is definitely small I was working with bigger bolts but if you can find the right size you should have no problem (no shit)

 

[Tuned]

Wyatt's right on the money. You can also heat the hub up a bit, that will help with the extraction.

For future reference, I've found those little screws to be painfully soft. Invest in titanium one's, they're cheap and won't ever fail on you again. Also, throw a bit of standard waterproof grease on each screw when you put them in next time, this will prevent ceasing.

 

[rubbish]

Success! The bolt was actually an M5x0.8. I ended up drilling a 3/32" hole, which by the way was a bitch to do! The bit kept jumping all over at first, and I was worried I'd damage the threads. But it ended up working ok. Luckily it wasn't tight since the head had snapped off. It gets much worse if there is a lot of contact pressure between the threads!

 

[Mtech]

First thing I did was replace those bolts with titanium.

 

[WERA689]

Rub, you got really lucky. I've had nothing but bad luck with those extractors over the years. So much so that I started using a torque wrench on everydamnthing! Glad it worked out.

 

[rubbish]

Rub, you got really lucky. I've had nothing but bad luck with those extractors over the years. So much so that I started using a torque wrench on everydamnthing! Glad it worked out.

Yeah same here. I think this was easy because it just needed a small amount of grip only since it wasn't tight. I stripped the OEM drain plug a couple of years ago and that was a BITCH to take out. It was already over-torqued as it was...the easy-outs didn't work at all for that.

 

[cbr6]

use anti seize , dissimilar metals best friend

 

[rubbish]

Replaced all 4 of them today...turns out ACE hardware has class 12.9 chrome plated bolts! WAY stronger than the stainless shit, with the added benefit of corrosion resistance. Not cheap though, which is why they lock those up! lol....$2.79 for one of those little buggers. But it's worth not having to spend half an hour drilling one out if that happened again.

 

[Joeii]

Dam, nice save. I swear, sometimes I come across bolts that are made out of lead...

 

[WERA689]

Back in the 70's, when I first got into working on bikes at the local Kaw shop, I was the guy that broke at least one bolt on every job. I hated being known for that!










Could have been worse, though. The other rookie broke rings.

 

[Shrek]

did you then go and invest is 1/4 dr and 3/8 dr sockets and ditch the 1/2" set?

Long a ago a housemate was complaining of butter bolts on the rocker cover of his 4age Toyota motor. I thought it was odd till he showed me he was using his brand new 1/2 socket set to do them up tight... 10mm heads on 6mm threads... hmmm

He must have left that set outside one night because it was gone the next morning.. I felt sorry for him and let him use my 1/4dr set.

 

[rubbish]

I was using 3/8" which is what I use for pretty much everything of that nature except for the really heavy duty stuff. Actually I just bought a 1/2" set a week ago only....the wrench is retractable too!

 

[WERA689]

I find that now I use my 1/4" drive stuff far more often than my 3/8". My 1/2" stuff only comes out for the bigger jobs on the car or truck.

 

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Back in the 70's, when I first got into working on bikes at the local Kaw shop, I was the guy that broke at least one bolt on every job. I hated being known for that!




Could have been worse, though. The other rookie broke rings.

I used to have that problem also. If I was taking something apart and there were 10 fasteners......9 would come out fairly easily and one would be seized in!! WTF!!

 

[rubbish]

I used to have that problem also. If I was taking something apart and there were 10 fasteners......9 would come out fairly easily and one would be seized in!! WTF!!

Better than being the other way around!

 

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Better than being the other way around!

LOLerskater you are very correct!!