[BCducnut]

I've been longing for a Duc 1098 (base model) and have been scouring craigslist for weeks. The challenge here in Canada is there are few available and those that are available are usually priced from $11,000 and up. :jerkoff:

Here are the stats on one that recently came available that I'm seeing on Monday and asking price is $7,900:

-2007 Ducati 1098 base model
-Yellow with full Termignoni system and newer tires
-10,200 km (6,200 miles) and full service history (seller emailed me records)
-Last major service was in 2013 and included timing belts, spark plugs, fluid flush, etc.

What's the catch? The seller was upfront and disclosed that in 2009 he rear-ended a car at slow speed and dropped the bike on its right side. The bike was fully repaired at the local Ducati dealer to the tune of $3,702.


I pulled a copy of the insurance accident history and it confirms the cost but there is no record of the nature of the damage. The seller only said that the right fairing was obviously damaged when he dropped the bike but he just paid his $500 deductible and his insurer towed it to the dealer and covered the remaining cost. That particular dealer closed up shop in 2010 and neither Ducati Canada nor the new dealer has any details on the work done.


So my question is assuming it checks out clean when I see and I will get it inspected at the dealer as well, would you pay $7,000 when the likely lowest price on any others would be north of $10,000?


The other thing to factor in is the valve clearance check along with the other 24 month major stuff which will run me $1,200-$1,500 up here. So all in I'm potentially looking at $8,200 for realistic savings of at least $2,000 over a comparable bike that did not suffer any accidents. If it was your money, what would you do?


Thanks in advance to those who sympathize with my analysis paralysis. :ahhh:

 

[bstar360]

No.

 

[ngstiles]

Here in Australia those yellow ducs tend to be less popular, and therefore a little cheaper, maybe the same in Canada

 

[Shrek]

sure.

my SS sidestand sunk into the tarmac and fell on it's side when it was about 4 years old.. that bill ran to about 4.5k with new speedo, levers and fairings etc.

3 grand would sound about right.

Still ahead after the service and belts etc.


plus.


Yellow is the fastest colour.

 

[Picklesp]

I wonder if the bike ran while it was on its side ?? If so I wouldn't buy it , it could have starved for oil and still run fine for (NOW) !

 

[Ducless]

If al checks out and it rides nice, yes.

 

[Proctologist]

My first reaction would be to decline, but consider the following:

1) does it have a clean title, 2) does the bike ride well, and 3) are the repairs up to OEM specification.

Lastly, what else does $7,900 get you in Canada otherwise?

 

[Carbon]

based off pic that is slip on not full system...

-Carbon

 

[ANORXIC'51]

based off pic that is slip on not full system...

-Carbon

Yep. Pipe mating pints and OEM heat shield gives it away.

 

[BCducnut]

Thanks to everyone for their 2 cents and the prompt responses, and I appreciate the call out on the slip-ons vs full Termi system. The current owner isn't "mechanically inclined", nor am I for that matter, and just assumed it was a full system. Oh, and it is clear title, not a rebuild, etc. as I pulled a lien search with the accident history search.

In regard to what else is out there at the price point of this 1098, Duc 848s are in the $8-$10K range for years '08-'11 but I'm only interested in a 1098. I'm stepping up from a 600cc supersport and the 1098 just tugs at my heart strings. I would forever regret getting an 848 just because.

The only other 1098 out there is also an '07 with 7,000 km (4,500 miles), completely stock with no accidents and a full service history (timing belts, spark plugs, fluids etc. replaced last year). The owner is asking $10,900.

My indecision began when comparing the two bikes:
Bike #1 - sustained an accident, needs the major service including valves but a likely "out-the-door" price including service of just over $8K.
Bike #2 - clean history, just needs an oil change, but likely $10K.

What I'm wrestling with is if the extra $2K (25% more!) is worth the potential peace of mind of no accidents, lower mileage, and potential resale value down the road.

Anyway, I'll check it out in person on Monday and go from there. Who knows, the seller may be super motivated and if it drives clean and the inspection goes fine he may even go lower than a $7K sale price. Will let y'all know on Monday. Thanks again!

 

[Proctologist]

Anyway, I'll check it out in person on Monday and go from there. Who knows, the seller may be super motivated and if it drives clean and the inspection goes fine he may even go lower than a $7K sale price. Will let y'all know on Monday. Thanks again!

What's the synopsis ?

 

[BCducnut]

Well let's just say the plot thickens. In the afternoon before I went to see this bike, I got a call from a guy I had emailed a couple of weeks ago on his '08 1098. That bike has 16K km (10K miles) with no accidents and a full service history too. But he lives like 6 hours from civilization and I had originally emailed him more for research purposes than to strike up a deal. Well it turns out he's bringing the bike to his parents' place in a week's time and they're like an hour from me. He's says he's very keen to move it though he was originally asking $11K in his ad so who knows. I told him I was going to see another bike but I would be in touch either way afterwards, but I digress.

When I arrived the first thing the owner said was he found the invoice for the work done after the accident and he showed it to me. Fortunately the damage was almost entirely cosmetic with damn near everything on the right side replaced, from the mirror and handlebar to the fairing and foot peg, etc. I was shocked at the cost of each item; the parts alone added up to just over a couple thou. :wtf:

The forks were not replaced but I believe the dealer would have replaced them if there were any concerns. I had him pump the forks and there was zero sign of any leaking. I also looked over the frame and there wasn't so much as a hairline scratch on it anywhere. Battery voltage with engine on and off were within spec, etc. She started up nice and clean too.

What I didn't like is that he's had the bike on a trickle charger but he didn't bother with any fuel stabilizer. The bike has basically sat in his garage for over nine months and the last oil change was June 2014. It just struck me as sloppy and after the call that afternoon, I held off on making a deal on the spot and told him I'd get back to him next week as another 1098 came available that I wanted to see.

He was fine with that and that's all she wrote. Unless this other 1098 comes close to this one in price though, I'll likely go back to him and make my offer subject to a satisfactory inspection.

Christ they are such beautiful bikes in person. No photos can possibly do them justice. :koolaid:

 

[Shrek]

the trickle charger seems to be a common theme for lots of these bikes. they seem to go flat over a couple of weeks. current draw from the immobiliser must be huge in these. My 01 can sit 3 or 4 months and fire up first pop.

Can't be too harsh on him for not using anything in the tank. there can be times and reasons he didn't. It's possible he had intentions of riding it a few times. or at least starting to let it run. Are you in a place with ethanol or not? even with stale fuel they will run fine on start up. if it stings your eyes coz it's really old then it will still run.. not so great and you should drain and refill, take for a goood long run but it will still be ok.

I think you're being a bit precious about this bike. it's not yours yet.. you can judge him on his upkeep or choice of mods.. but it's your money and you don't have to buy it.. just like he does not have to sell it to you.
You could have just taken it in and accept that he has valued it accordingly. At any point were you going to say.. No.. 9 grand is not enough, I'll give you 10. If he had swapped out the fuel can he then charge you 10?


If you told me you wanted to go look at another bike you can bet your arse that if you come back to me, I won't budge on my price.. unless I try to get it to go UP. No dude, that was a good price for you last week.. now it's $ 9 500 coz you stuffed me about.

then again, I am not desperate to sell my bike.

 

[Proctologist]

What I didn't like is that he's had the bike on a trickle charger but he didn't bother with any fuel stabilizer. The bike has basically sat in his garage for over nine months and the last oil change was June 2014. It just struck me as sloppy and after the call that afternoon, I held off on making a deal on the spot and told him I'd get back to him next week as another 1098 came available that I wanted to see.

I wouldn't let the lack of fuel stabilizer get in the way.

When reading my last Ducati owner's manual, they didn't recommend any fuel additives.

The engine oil sitting from June 2014 is a justifiable point.. owner probably got lazy since he's selling it.

 

[Ducless]

Sounds like you are finding reason's not to buy, but I think you might be over looking one important part of the purchase; the seller. It sounds like you have found a honest one!!! Good luck with your search.

 

[abush]

So BCducnut did you ever buy a bike?

 

[daledo]

I've been longing for a Duc 1098 (base model) and have been scouring craigslist for weeks. The challenge here in Canada is there are few available and those that are available are usually priced from $11,000 and up. :jerkoff:

Here are the stats on one that recently came available that I'm seeing on Monday and asking price is $7,900:

-2007 Ducati 1098 base model
-Yellow with full Termignoni system and newer tires
-10,200 km (6,200 miles) and full service history (seller emailed me records)
-Last major service was in 2013 and included timing belts, spark plugs, fluid flush, etc.

What's the catch? The seller was upfront and disclosed that in 2009 he rear-ended a car at slow speed and dropped the bike on its right side. The bike was fully repaired at the local Ducati dealer to the tune of $3,702.


I pulled a copy of the insurance accident history and it confirms the cost but there is no record of the nature of the damage. The seller only said that the right fairing was obviously damaged when he dropped the bike but he just paid his $500 deductible and his insurer towed it to the dealer and covered the remaining cost. That particular dealer closed up shop in 2010 and neither Ducati Canada nor the new dealer has any details on the work done.


So my question is assuming it checks out clean when I see and I will get it inspected at the dealer as well, would you pay $7,000 when the likely lowest price on any others would be north of $10,000?


The other thing to factor in is the valve clearance check along with the other 24 month major stuff which will run me $1,200-$1,500 up here. So all in I'm potentially looking at $8,200 for realistic savings of at least $2,000 over a comparable bike that did not suffer any accidents. If it was your money, what would you do?


Thanks in advance to those who sympathize with my analysis paralysis. :ahhh:

Meh I have had 2 salvage title 1098 for track and street use. I found out that 1098 were easily scrapped by insurance. I bought one that was dropped on its side bc the kickstand was on loose dirt. the mirror upper and mid fairing was damaged and a tab on the fairing stay was busted. back in 2008 replacing those parts cost about 3gs if you got parts from the dealer. Mind you on the other hand Ive seen serious basket cases with frame damage being passed off as mild damage. Be real careful, the thing I would worry about is frame damage!