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FP1 - Guintoli on top...

FP1 kick-started the penultimate round of the eni FIM Superbike World Championship into life as the 28 riders took the track in warm and sunny conditions at Magny-Cours.

From the outset it was the main two protagonists in the title chase that headed the times with reigning Champion Tom Sykes (Kawasaki Racing Team) ahead of local hero Sylvain Guintoli (Aprilia Racing Team).

As the session went on, and with the leading 14 riders having returned to the track after some mid-session tweaks to their machines the last 15 minutes provided some real excitement as firstly Leon Haslam (Pata Honda World Superbike Team) then Davide Giugliano (Ducati Superbike Team) and Marco Melandri (Aprilia Racing Team) closed the gap to the leading duo.

However as the chequered flag was waved at the end of the opening 45 minutes it was Guintoli who laid down the marker for the others to follow, the Frenchman overhauling Sykes with his final push aboard his Aprilia Racing machine. Sykes clung onto P2 with Melandri, Haslam, Moto GP bound Eugene Laverty (Voltcom Crescent Suzuki) and Giugliano rounding out the top 6.

The 3C Ducati squad are here in force, Max Neukirchner was their lead rider in 12th ahead of the newly crowned IDM Champion Xavi Fores (13th) and Lorenzo Lanzi (16th).

Davd Salom (Kawasaki Racing Team) was the best classified EVO rider in 14th with Fabien Foret (Team Pedercini) competing in his final WSBK outing this weekend ending the opening session in 21st position.



Superbike - Results Free Practice 1st Session
Magny Cours, 3-4-5 October 2014 102/12
No. Rider Nat Team Bike Gap Rel. Laps Avg


1 50 S. GUINTOLI FRA Aprilia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'38.366 14 161,434 295,1
2 1 T. SYKES GBR Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'38.652 0.286 0.286 19 160,966 295,9
3 33 M. MELANDRI ITA Aprilia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'38.984 0.618 0.332 18 160,426 294,3
4 91 L. HASLAM GBR PATA Honda World Superbike Honda CBR1000RR 1'39.047 0.681 0.063 18 160,324 282,7
5 58 E. LAVERTY IRL Voltcom Crescent Suzuki Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'39.054 0.688 0.007 14 160,313 287,2
6 34 D. GIUGLIANO ITA Ducati Superbike Team Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'39.107 0.741 0.053 14 160,227 293,5
7 22 A. LOWES GBR Voltcom Crescent Suzuki Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'39.316 0.950 0.209 17 159,890 286,5
8 65 J. REA GBR PATA Honda World Superbike Honda CBR1000RR 1'39.642 1.276 0.326 16 159,367 290,3
9 76 L. BAZ FRA Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'39.676 1.310 0.034 17 159,312 291,1
10 24 T. ELIAS ESP Red Devils Roma Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'39.763 1.397 0.087 17 159,173 298,3
11 7 C. DAVIES GBR Ducati Superbike Team Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'39.842 1.476 0.079 16 159,047 293,5
12 27 M. NEUKIRCHNER GER 3C Racing Team Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'39.994 1.628 0.152 14 158,806 288,8
13 212 X. FORES ESP 3C Racing Team Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'40.122 1.756 0.128 14 158,603 286,5
14 44 D. SALOM ESP Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'40.460 2.094 0.338 14 158,069 272,7
15 59 N. CANEPA ITA Althea Racing Ducati 1199 Panigale R EVO 1'40.480 2.114 0.020 16 158,037 281,3
16 57 L. LANZI ITA 3C Racing Team Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'40.880 2.514 0.400 13 157,411 279,1
17 71 C. CORTI ITA MV Agusta Reparto Corse MV Agusta F4 RR 1'40.924 2.558 0.044 15 157,342 282,0
18 32 S. MORAIS RSA IRON BRAIN Grillini Kawasaki Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'41.189 2.823 0.265 15 156,930 267,3
19 11 J. GUARNONI FRA MRS Kawasaki Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'41.303 2.937 0.114 16 156,754 270,0
20 52 S. BARRIER FRA BMW Motorrad Italia SBK BMW S1000 RR EVO 1'41.337 2.971 0.034 18 156,701 281,3
21 9 F. FORET FRA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'41.496 3.130 0.159 15 156,455 274,1
22 16 G. RIZMAYER HUN BMW Team Toth BMW S1000 RR EVO 1'43.023 4.657 1.527 12 154,136 276,2
23 67 B. STARING AUS IRON BRAIN Grillini Kawasaki Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'43.126 4.760 0.103 6 153,983 270,7
24 99 G. MAY USA Team Hero EBR EBR 1190 RX 1'43.336 4.970 0.210 16 153,670 263,4
25 21 A. ANDREOZZI ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'43.415 5.049 0.079 9 153,552 272,7
26 10 I. TOTH HUN BMW Team Toth BMW S1000 RR 1'43.623 5.257 0.208 17 153,244 273,4
27 20 A. YATES USA Team Hero EBR EBR 1190 RX 1'44.511 6.145 0.888 19 151,942 264,1
28 74 N. SALCHAUD FRA Dream Team Company MV Agusta F4 RR 1'45.484 7.118 0.973 19 150,540 264,1
 

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FP2 - Guigliano rases the bar

The afternoon session at Magny-Cours finished with Italian Davide Giugliano (Ducati Superbike Team) setting the fastest time, to head the combined classification after FP1 and FP2.

With only Leon Haslam (Pata Honda World Superbike Team) and Claudio Corti (MV Agusta Reparto Corse) failing to improve out of the top twenty riders in the overall standings, the 45 minute session was fast and furious with 5 manufacturers represented in the first six places.

Behind Giugliano, Eugene Laverty (Voltcom Crescent Suzuki) was 2nd ahead of this morning’s pace setter Sylvain Guintoli (Aprilia Racing Team).

Jonathan Rea (Pata Honda World Superbike Team), Marco Melandri (Aprilia Racing Team) and reigning champion Tom Sykes (Kawasaki Racing Team) completed the top six with Loris Baz (Kawasaki Racing Team), Chaz Davies (Ducati Superbike Team), Alex Lowes (Voltcom Crescent Suzuki) and Leon Haslam (Pata Honda World Superbike Team) filling the remaining places inside the top ten.

Niccolo Canepa (Althea Racing Ducati) made a huge step forward, moving into 14th overall and in doing so becoming the best classified EVO rider.

As it stands Fabien Foret would be the final rider to take part in Tissot-Superpole tomorrow, but with one final session to come to decide the participants anything can still happen and probably will!




Superbike - Results Free Practice 2nd Session
Magny Cours, 3-4-5 October 2014 102/12
No. Rider Nat Team Bike Gap Rel. Laps Avg


1 34 D. GIUGLIANO ITA Ducati Superbike Team Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'37.866 16 162,259 295,1
2 58 E. LAVERTY IRL Voltcom Crescent Suzuki Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'38.138 0.272 0.272 13 161,809 286,5
3 50 S. GUINTOLI FRA Aprilia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'38.152 0.286 0.014 18 161,786 296,7
4 65 J. REA GBR PATA Honda World Superbike Honda CBR1000RR 1'38.157 0.291 0.005 20 161,778 292,7
5 33 M. MELANDRI ITA Aprilia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'38.451 0.585 0.294 16 161,294 291,1
6 1 T. SYKES GBR Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'38.518 0.652 0.067 18 161,185 294,3
7 76 L. BAZ FRA Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'38.647 0.781 0.129 17 160,974 288,8
8 7 C. DAVIES GBR Ducati Superbike Team Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'38.747 0.881 0.100 13 160,811 294,3
9 22 A. LOWES GBR Voltcom Crescent Suzuki Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'38.888 1.022 0.141 14 160,582 284,2
10 91 L. HASLAM GBR PATA Honda World Superbike Honda CBR1000RR 1'39.040 1.174 0.152 13 160,335 284,2
11 212 X. FORES ESP 3C Racing Team Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'39.265 1.399 0.225 14 159,972 287,2
12 27 M. NEUKIRCHNER GER 3C Racing Team Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'39.308 1.442 0.043 19 159,903 288,8
13 24 T. ELIAS ESP Red Devils Roma Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'39.439 1.573 0.131 15 159,692 298,3
14 59 N. CANEPA ITA Althea Racing Ducati 1199 Panigale R EVO 1'39.548 1.682 0.109 17 159,517 278,4
15 44 D. SALOM ESP Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'40.022 2.156 0.474 15 158,761 275,5
16 52 S. BARRIER FRA BMW Motorrad Italia SBK BMW S1000 RR EVO 1'40.170 2.304 0.148 16 158,527 282,7
17 57 L. LANZI ITA 3C Racing Team Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'40.256 2.390 0.086 16 158,391 284,2
18 32 S. MORAIS RSA IRON BRAIN Grillini Kawasaki Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'40.677 2.811 0.421 13 157,728 270,0
19 9 F. FORET FRA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'40.961 3.095 0.284 14 157,284 278,4
20 11 J. GUARNONI FRA MRS Kawasaki Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'41.217 3.351 0.256 14 156,887 265,4
21 71 C. CORTI ITA MV Agusta Reparto Corse MV Agusta F4 RR 1'41.396 3.530 0.179 12 156,610 283,5
22 21 A. ANDREOZZI ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'41.647 3.781 0.251 12 156,223 281,3
23 67 B. STARING AUS IRON BRAIN Grillini Kawasaki Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'41.980 4.114 0.333 16 155,713 272,7
24 99 G. MAY USA Team Hero EBR EBR 1190 RX 1'42.701 4.835 0.721 17 154,620 262,1
25 10 I. TOTH HUN BMW Team Toth BMW S1000 RR 1'43.432 5.566 0.731 16 153,527 283,5
26 20 A. YATES USA Team Hero EBR EBR 1190 RX 1'43.590 5.724 0.158 16 153,293 262,8
27 74 N. SALCHAUD FRA Dream Team Company MV Agusta F4 RR 1'45.524 7.658 1.934 10 150,483 262,1
 

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Hopefrully Giugliano can stay on the damn Pani during the race. He is fast and consistent. Consistently on the floor....
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Well, Giugliano is upright thru SP2, securing a front row start!,,, Sykes, on Pole Position, Giugliano .22 secs in second. Now, if he can..... Well you know!!!

Go Ducati!
 
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Hopefrully Giugliano can stay on the damn Pani during the race. He is fast and consistent. Consistently on the floor....
:popcorn:
Yep.. Something for Davide to work on in the future ...
As of now? I see him as a Saturday man..
 
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wow...sunday night and no comments yet?? ok fine, I'll start


*****SPOILER ALERT*************



So who here thinks that Ducati needs a guy that knows how to finish races?? I vote Lanzi needs to replace Giugliano. Lots of crashes today, and quite a few of them being Ducatis unfortunately.

Don't quite agree with the team orders stuff in the Aprilia and Kawasaki camps, but even though I'm not a big Melandri fan, I think it's just hilarious that he ignored the board in the 2nd race and went for the win! LOL....also funny how Baz let Sykes pass him in the very last turn! :D I understand the logic behind it, but I mostly agree with the commentators and Troy Corser who was a guest in the box...if you're not good enough to win the race, then maybe you don't deserve to win the championship. Can't get used to getting handouts like that. Marco did it in race 1, but said "fuck you all" in race 2.

BUT....biggest news is Ducati 1199 Panigale winning the STK1000!! How 'bout them apples? Undeserving, some may say, but hey...it's racing! Not his fault that Savadori crashed with just several turns to go before the finish line. After a shitty qualifying for Mercado, it was Savadori's championship to lose...and he binned it!
 

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Yea I mean, ya gotta make it to the line to win eh? Still it amazed me how many Duc's were upside down this weekend. It's clear, Davies gave up trying, he took the slow road in race 2 to bring it home.

I think Steve Martin said it best, Giugliano simply can't ride unless the bike is sliding. Unfortunately in rain, that doesn't work because one small mistake and you're on the ground, just remember Assen this year, same results! Ohh well! Can't really blame the bike in rain, it's really down to the riders.

I think Sykes has this in the bag though, he will crush Guintolli at Quatar, which is a horsepower track.
 

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Thought you were banned, Purcell.
 
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Great rain racing! Melandre was superb, as was his teammate! Tip of the hat to Sykes for his race.
The highlight of the weekend was Ducati winning the ST 1000 race!
Go Ducati, life is good!
 

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Sykes has the highest chances of winning, but I do think it'll go down to the last race, and that's what I'm hoping to see anyway. I could honestly care less which one wins. I don't mind Sykes, I don't mind Guintoli, and I prefer Aprilia over Kawasaki but neither of the 2 is Ducati, so I'm pretty indifferent about who's going to win. I just want to see good racing and the win going down to the last race...even the last lap, but I kind of doubt that will happen.
 

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Personally I think Baz and Melandri are punks for there disrespect towards there team and team mates. Neither are mathematically in the hunt for the championship so there winning or position placement helps nobody......if it did then my opinion would obviously be different.

There's no "I" in team but there is in Melandri.
 

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Personally I think Baz and Melandri are punks for there disrespect towards there team and team mates. Neither are mathematically in the hunt for the championship so there winning or position placement helps nobody......if it did then my opinion would obviously be different.

There's no "I" in team but there is in Melandri.
Yeah and I'm sure they know it but don't really give much of a shit. Baz is young, wants to prove himself, his contract with Kawasaki is over and next year he's going to GP. Therefore he had absolutely NOTHING to lose...yet he was "nice" enough to let Sykes go by in the last turn. So technically he did think of the team and his teammate, but he wanted to make it very obvious that he was better that day, and that HE let Tom by.

Melandri is staying with the same team next year, so he let Guintoli by in the 1st race...again, thinking of the team. But to do it again in the 2nd race?? At that point he thought, enough is enough...gave you one handout, not going to do it again...you want a championship, you have to earn it! Guintoli finished 2nd behind Melandri about 4-5 times now in the last several races. If he would've let him win EVERY time, Guintoli would be in the lead now...but honestly, what racer, and racing fan wants to see a guy win a championship (especially at such a high level) because his own teammate let him win a bunch of times. If you want to win, then show that you're the best! Show it by winning races, not getting freebies from your teammate.

It's the racer mentality. You know what they say...at 150 mph, you have NO friends! When you see that guy in front of you, all you want to do is pass him. Doesn't matter who he is. Doesn't matter if it's a MotoGP race or some amateur club race where you don't even win anything other than a plastic trophy. Same mentality....I totally get it...it's racing! :yo:
 

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I get why Aprilia wanted Melandri to give up again but i'm glad he didn't. Guintoli has to earn it. So did anyone see Guintoli flip off Melandri at the en of the 2nd race? He shook his hand after though.
 

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I get why Aprilia wanted Melandri to give up again but i'm glad he didn't. Guintoli has to earn it. So did anyone see Guintoli flip off Melandri at the en of the 2nd race? He shook his hand after though.
I had to watch it again to see that....it was a "thumbs-up" not a flip off. Guintoli is more mature than to flip off his teammate for winning.
 
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Nobody knows the rider lineup for next year. There will not be a factory Aprilia team in World Superbikes. So if Melandri stays with the team, he will be in MotoGP, of which it appears both seats are already spoken for. It's unfortunate Melandri took a while to get along with the Aprilia. But now he does, its even MORE unfortunate he most likely won't be able to capitalize on it for next year. But we wait to see what happens. If he goes into MotoGP, he won't be top 3.
 

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I re watched them race, and was thinking that seeing Cal on the box..
Third podium..
So, I suppose that Assen being declared a "wet" race keeps Ducati open for now?
Was just curious..

Also watched the Moto3 race again..
Alex needs to work on his race craft a bit in his future.
Impatience of youth, and showing his hand too early in the last two races on the penultimate laps..
Could be loosing some points that may end up being wanted back in a few weeks.

Hope that title goes down to Valencia..
 
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