I keep reading the base will stay a 1098 with the S and R moving up (though the R is already a 1198)

Im honestly somewhat surprised by this but not really. It doesnt make sense as to why they didnt just go to 1198 in the first place.

 

Im honestly somewhat surprised by this but not really. It doesnt make sense as to why they didnt just go to 1198 in the first place.

If I remember correctly, Ducati made the 1098 first, then asked WSBK for a 100cc rule change. But WSBK surprised Ducati with the 200cc rule change, and they just scrambled up another 100cc for the 1098R.

 

thats a good find i very highly dought that they would change the displacement after only two years. but i agree with gamble why not have the displacement at 1198 if its eligable in WSBK. but then why buy an r????

 

thats a good find i very highly dought that they would change the displacement after only two years. but i agree with gamble why not have the displacement at 1198 if its eligible in WSBK. but then why buy an r????

+1 to that.

Production and marketing strategies continuously change. And Italians love to do things however they see fit without subscribing to anyones philosophy, but still like to add a bit of tradition on top.

So two years of production run. What did they do with the 916, 996, 998, 999 etc from 1994 onwards?

What was the longest model production run for any of those bikes? Possibly the 916? I'm not sure.

It was bound to happen. That is how they traditionally have developed their bikes. Our bikes have decreased in value, were always going to, and are now not going to be the highest cpapcity model? I don't care.

What does it all mean? Stuffed if I know. Possibly just that in 12 years time my bike will be worth about a third of what I paid for it. Much like the 916 is now.

I bought the 916 because I loved it, and just had to have one, and then watched the SP, the SPS, the 996, 998, 999 and all the S & R variants follow it out, and was tempted several times to upgrade. I bought my 1098 for exactly the same reason. But this is MORE than enough for me now. Can it really get better than this?

The 916 went for 4 years, the 916SPS paved the way for the 996, the 998 was the 'old' body with the 'new' testastretta motor , then the 999. I suspect they built the 998 until they ran out of the 'old' frame and body work before they phased it out.

Their marketing people realised that having all the different variations of the 748 and 916 didn't work in their favour and there wasn't really a great diff between the base and s models and they have openly said they they won't be doing that again real soon. Hence I don't expect to see an 'S' or 'R' 848 in the near future even though they have an base, S & R in the 1098. There is no international race category for the 848 so... maybe an S 848 in 2009 ?? as in the 1098.
I expect a few 'refinements' over the next couple of years but nothing major.

But then again, you never can tell.

 

Production and marketing strategies continuously change. And Italians love to do things however they see fit without subscribing to anyones philosophy, but still like to add a bit of tradition on top.

So two years of production run. What did they do with the 916, 996, 998, 999 etc from 1994 onwards?

What was the longest model production run for any of those bikes? Possibly the 916? I'm not sure.

It was bound to happen. That is how they traditionally have developed their bikes. Our bikes have decreased in value, were always going to, and are now not going to be the highest cpapcity model? I don't care.

What does it all mean? Stuffed if I know. Possibly just that in 12 years time my bike will be worth about a third of what I paid for it. Much like the 916 is now.

I bought the 916 because I loved it, and just had to have one, and then watched the SP, the SPS, the 996, 998, 999 and all the S & R variants follow it out, and was tempted several times to upgrade. I bought my 1098 for exactly the same reason. But this is MORE than enough for me now. Can it really get better than this?

 

The 1098 should be a better handling, quicker bike to ride than the 1198 just look how much better the 848 is over the 1098

 

+1 Willo. As always, bang on the money straight out of the blocks.

 

why didn't they make it a 648...would be even faster & better than a 1098 & an 848, if the maths is correct...

 

:laughing::laughing:

That would be the 'new' de-tuned 2 valve monster ??? I think I saw one flash past me up the inside when out riding with the big boys on the weekend. I thought Smarty and Bevelman were going to give him a run for his money but he ate them up in a flash too.

 

is this turning into a 'lets stir our little 848 brothers up again' thread? ooo goodie

opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:

 

is this turning into a 'lets stir our little 848 brothers up again' thread? ooo goodie

opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:

I thought that they were our little sisters. :naughty:

 

yep! it will sell right next to the 848R......and the 09 Desmosedici Naked model


if they build it..... you will come

 

that 848 was a load of old wank!!! I mean really why would you waste your money on buying that? it was rediculous amount of money for what it was. Put up the parts and cost list for us again to have another chuckle at....

 

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

 

Ducati will do this because of the WSB rules for homologation. They have to produce 3000 bikes with 1198cc to match their race bike. There is no way they are going to sell 3000 1098R's in a year.

 

I dont think they have to sell them, just make them available for sale.

 

MSRP 15,995 for base 1098
MSRP 39,995 for the 1098R
So 24 grand for upgrades

MSRP 13,495 for 848
+
$26,485.73 for the 848R. PARTS
SO 39980.73 for the 848R
For that kind of cash just send it to Durban with a rack of beer and 25 k and get back some crazy sick magnesium cased carbon fiber concoction that was 150 pounds and is race ready for real.

 

I still think they will make an 848s. or R. It's all about marketing, and keeping a model interesting.

As far as an 1198, I would bet that that will happen.

As far as 848 and 1098 comparisons. A R6 is a nice bike, for a "little" brother to the R1. A GSXR 600 is nice as well, as a "LITTLE brother to a GSXR 1000. A Porsche Boxster is very nice, as a "little" brother to a Carrera.

An 848 is nice, as a starter bike for little girls, compared to a "Toy for big boys', a 1098.

I am riding with guys on 848's this Monday, and I am relishing the opportunity to dust them on the straights..........it will be fun.

 

I still think they will make an 848s. or R. It's all about marketing, and keeping a model interesting.

As far as an 1198, I would bet that that will happen.

As far as 848 and 1098 comparisons. A R6 is a nice bike, for a "little" brother to the R1. A GSXR 600 is nice as well, as a "LITTLE brother to a GSXR 1000. A Porsche Boxster is very nice, as a "little" brother to a Carrera.

An 848 is nice, as a starter bike for little girls, compared to a "Toy for big boys', a 1098.

I am riding with guys on 848's this Monday, and I am relishing the opportunity to dust them on the straights..........it will be fun.

Ah the straights.. where a rider can really show their skill.. :jerkoff:

 

Having just upgraded to an R to get the extra 100cc's, I would spew if I could get this in 2009 for 1/2 the cost.
Probably like the 999R owners felt when the 1098 came out.

 

I probably would too.

But they have always improved the breed with each new model release haven't they?

I bet they would still have the more expensive R with the TC, TTX, and whatever else it has, the S with the 'average' suspension bits, the better rims, and the base. I bet you would not get anywhere near the extra 20 odd hp in the S or the base, that you would get in the R, for an extra 100cc or not. In short, I bet the R would get a bit more for the same price too, thus preserving the investment of the existing R owners.

 

Oh well... I like to way my 1098 looks. I don't really care if Ducati comes out 1198 or even 1298. It will probably be the same bike with bigger motor.

 

I hate when that happens!

 

yeah, me too, but it always happens

 

think i might get one of these next...:smoking:

 

Oz I think you should borrow my signature for a while;-

Taking stupidity to a new low in a forum near you!

 

Nah, I'm ok thanks.... i like the RC8, KTM just needs to sort out the gearbox....

 

Just had one of my clients turn up to work on one of them really nice bike looks better in the white than the orange I'm going to get together with him and take it for a spin.

 

Oi!!!

Let me know when you go!!!

 

I wouldn't mind taking one for a ride, they look schmick... would be even nicer in Black... most of the reviews were pretty good except for the gearbox...

maybe i could paint it RED?

 

nah, it would still look like pox.

There are only two types of motorbikes in this world. Ducati's, and then there are Ducatis.

 

and a Black KTM RC8... oh wait...that's three...:wtf:

 

Ergos where really good actually quite comfy to sit on keep the 1098 and get rid of the multi and get one of these bad boys and head for the bush....I miss this bike and I'm going to get another.

 

man, i thought my Multi was not the prettiest bike, but these KTM's & the BMW's are just bloody ugly...

 

Ruben says get BMW!

:smoking:

 

Nahh - Batman left the building a long time ago ....