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That's some bad luck man, it just goes from bad to worse it seems!!

On the subject of everybody worried about the back wheel locking up at speed... the back wheel will not lock at speed in the event of a stall because the revs will be up high. The whole reason the tire locks up in the first place is because of the low speed of the bike coupled with an engine on the verge of "chugging" in first gear as you start out or go around a 90deg corner, usually while somewhat slipping the clutch because you're going so slow. The engine quits and there is not enough inertia because of how light the bike is and how slow it is going to keep those huge pistons moving up and down in first gear... resulting in the rear tire rotation stopping as well as a result of it. When you "bump" start a bike what gear do you do it in? Usually 2nd or 3rd because if you try it in first, the back wheel will likely skid because the engine has more leverage than the rear tire while in first gear... same principle

The locking of the back wheel is not a Ducati specific phenomenon, it follows closely with high performance twins. It first happened to me while riding a friends TL1000S the first year they came out. Taking off from a stop sign turning right, I let the revs get a little too low (unfamiliar bike) and as I gave it a little throttle to power through the corner it quit with a subsequent locking of the rear tire. The back tire kicked out and stopped 90deg sideways in the middle of the road almost throwing me off, luckily I kept it upright and learned my lesson. Happened to another friend a couple times on his first bike, an RC51.

Hope they get your problems figured out and get this nightmare resolved for you man, I feel for you!!
 
A blessing and a curse. That really sucks...I feel terrible just hearing about it.

Thankfully you're okay, first priority. And now you can get on with the business of making your bike 100% like it should have been when you originally picked it up! Since you can't ride now, spend the time you would have been riding, hounding them and hammering away to make them pay for everything and then some...do not give this one up and think for one second that you have any accountability.

Almost sounds like some of the luck I have had and I feel your pain my man. There is not much else to say other than good luck and keep us posted.

P.S. Not a bad idea to take the money and do the CF! :p

DukeQ said:
Things has gone from bad to worse!:bandit:

Decided to take my baby in to check what can be done about the paint problem, and then have them send it back to service to look at the new severe stalling problem.(6 times in 13 km)

I pulled out at my house took the first t-junction corner (90 degr), ....and the bike stalled on me with the wheel fully turned (not locked). We came down hard!
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Result:
Damaged mirror
Broken front break lever.
Bent rear brake lever,
Scuffed off fork point
Chipped rim (front)
Scratched off bar weight.
Dented clutch cover
Badly scratched tail section.
Side panel fairing now looks like a cat played "sharpen my nails" on it.

The bike is now back at the dealer, and I am now no more forcing repairs, but demanding that the bike is repaired fully at their / Ducati cost, as the bike has become unsafe to ride, due to the severety of stalling!

I'll download the pics of the new and old damage tonight.

ITS PAINFULL!

Luckily, I had my leathers on and walk away with only a sprained ankle, and a broken heart


:shitfan:
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
Update 2

Good news for a change:)

My bike is in for repairs and the dealer is fixing EVERYTHING on their cost. Replacement of all broken or dented parts, replace tail, and repainted fairing panel.

The tail replacement and fairing repaint will however be delayed until after our Monday&Tuesday track training sessions, because the paint wont dry in time.

We have guys from Italy MotoGP giving us track training for 2 days, Mon/Tues complete with pit crew and pro mechanics that will be setting our bikes up for us!

And as a bonus Casy Stoner and Capriossi will be here on the same 2 days, testing the track at night for the first ever night race motogp. As rumour goes they will be testing the 1098R and their bikes on the track here.

There will be a slight chance to join them on the track as well, as we are quite a big group of Ducati riders here on those days.

Is worth the wait for for the respray...oooohhhh yyyyeeess...
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a once in a lifetime chance to ride with these and get expert training...the paint cant wait 2 days!
 
Congrats on getting this issue resolved!

DukeQ said:
Good news for a change:)

My bike is in for repairs and the dealer is fixing EVERYTHING on their cost. Replacement of all broken or dented parts, replace tail, and repainted fairing panel.

The tail replacement and fairing repaint will however be delayed until after our Monday&Tuesday track training sessions, because the paint wont dry in time.

We have guys from Italy MotoGP giving us track training for 2 days, Mon/Tues complete with pit crew and pro mechanics that will be setting our bikes up for us!

And as a bonus Casy Stoner and Capriossi will be here on the same 2 days, testing the track at night for the first ever night race motogp. As rumour goes they will be testing the 1098R and their bikes on the track here.

There will be a slight chance to join them on the track as well, as we are quite a big group of Ducati riders here on those days.

Is worth the wait for for the respray...oooohhhh yyyyeeess...
Image
a once in a lifetime chance to ride with these and get expert training...the paint cant wait 2 days!
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
Stalling update

ITTSSS BAAACKKKKK!!:mad: :( :wtf: WTF

I knew Ducs had the repetation of being full of shit sometimes, but this is getting rediculous!

As you all know, this has cost me some serious money in damages to my bike. Had the 3rd ECU installed, and no stall for 1000km, today I have my thumb on the starter button almost all the time. Stalled in a roundabout, while splitting traffic, coming hot upto a corner (just pulled the clutch in and hoped for the best) , and at 120km in 3rd gearing up.

ITS GETTING WORSE!!!!!

Bike is going in this week again! Hopefully the idiots here know how to fix the cams. This is the last resort, and if it doesnt fix it, or they F*** it up again, I am selling her.
Its in the service station more than at my house.

ITS NOW JUST BECOMING TOO DAMN DANGEROUS.

All the power and the next moment nothing!

Sorry for ranting, but I am fed-up!
 
Discussion starter · #28 ·
No, I had the termi slip-ons fitted on delivery, and the stock ECU was replaced with a Race ECU, the stalling happened over and over, then Ducatii had the recall on the ECU's. Took mine in got a new race ECU, still stalled, then Ducati sent out a remapping of the ECU. Took it back and had the mapping done, stopped stalling for 1000km, Now its back!

Thats in short, the full story is part of the beginning of the thread, Jason. Remember, it stalled, locked the back wheel and dropped the bike. Dealer "repaired" the scratches, and it came back worse etc etc. (Recap)

As what I have been observing, I have 2 choices left....

1) Cams reworked (warranty)
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2) Change to full termis (another $2200)
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3) Sell
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My dream has become a nightmare
 
DukeQ said:
No, I had the termi slip-ons fitted on delivery, and the stock ECU was replaced with a Race ECU, the stalling happened over and over, then Ducatii had the recall on the ECU's. Took mine in got a new race ECU, still stalled, then Ducati sent out a remapping of the ECU. Took it back and had the mapping done, stopped stalling for 1000km, Now its back!

Thats in short, the full story is part of the beginning of the thread, Jason. Remember, it stalled, locked the back wheel and dropped the bike. Dealer "repaired" the scratches, and it came back worse etc etc. (Recap)

As what I have been observing, I have 2 choices left....

1) Cams reworked (warranty)
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2) Change to full termis (another $2200)
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3) Sell
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My dream has become a nightmare
Ok, yeah I remember now...

Cripes, tough break for sure. I do feel for ya and am sorry to hear you are still having issues at this point when it seems that most of the other bikes have been corrected.

Did the Slip-on come with the Race ECU? Did they determine the Race ECU to be bad? I don't recall hearing any problems with them or did they just replace it ya think to say they did and eliminate that factor?

Do you think the full system will really correct the problem? My suggestion would be a Power Commander and a custom map, that will only set you back $250 and be worth it weather it correct the issue or not.

Jason
 
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